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◊ 2006-12-22 21:27 |
hmm nice video but should we really list it? its not really a short movie ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:29 |
It is rather a commercial video. I like it too, but I do not know if it has its place here... Note that BMW short movies are also commercial, but they are made by known directors and listed on IMDB. -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 21:29:40 |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:29 |
Well I think that it is, for sure it isn't a typical advert. Anyway I can delete it, but we have here a pics from videos which aren't even a real movies (according to a movie definition). -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 21:35:47 |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:37 |
For me it can stay (as it has SAABs ![]() Btw, you didn't had a better video as source for pictures? I think I had a video of a higher size, I'll have to check. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:38 |
the thing is that this isnt a short movie cause theres no argument and because it is an advert, anyway which ones do you mean weasel1984? |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:41 |
Why it isn't a short movie? ![]() Some music videos. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:42 |
Yes but music videos is a category acepted here, adverts are not ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:43 |
Unfortunately not. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:48 |
Don't delete it. It's a truly wonderful short film. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:51 |
If we start like this in a future we'll have long discussions about wether we have to add a video or not, a short movie its not only a short videoclip of whatever it is, its like a movie, with an argument, a script, actors (not necesarilly always) and this only showed the cars driving arround, its short of length but that doesnt mean it is clasified as short movie ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:51 |
We can list it as music video. ![]() No, as I've already said, I can delete it. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:57 |
Well, music videos are accepted just because we decided that they are ![]() We can, case by case, decide if a video is considered as a short movie or not. For this one I do not know. It is not just a TV advertising. It is a promotional/commercial short movie. |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:57 |
Please delete it, and all music video's... ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:58 |
Promotional/commercional adverts arent called short movies ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 21:59 |
What about the BMW short movies then? If that's not promotional, what is it? ![]() -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 22:00:03 |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:05 |
BMW are short movies as they have a plot actors and a scrip, and although BMw id them with the purpose of showing BMW models they are more than adverts, well they actually arent adverts, they are short movies wih the BMW as "main characters", really, this is not a short movie at all. |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:09 |
There is more plot in this "not a short movie" than in some blockbuster movies ![]() -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 22:09:18 |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:10 |
It is a movie (short or not it isn't important - it is only a time), the most important thing is a construction. To have a real movie we need at least 3 acts - this movie has them. |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:10 |
Well up to you, you rule you decide, but if you are interested in my opinion, this should not be added And no weasel, its not a movie -- Last edit: 2006-12-22 22:13:51 |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:16 |
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◊ 2006-12-22 22:17 |
LOL this probably does not have its place here.. I vote for deleting (but i still love it) |
◊ 2006-12-22 22:17 |
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◊ 2006-12-22 22:20 |
Let's vote: http://forum.imcdb.org/forum_topic-1590-7276.html ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-22 23:10 |
For better shots of the Saabs, you might want to consider one of the Clarkson movies I added recently, as it contained exerts from it: /vehicle_69033-SAAB-9000-1988.html |
◊ 2006-12-23 02:02 |
where i can download this advertising? i download many advertisings but i dont sent the pics here...lol |
◊ 2006-12-23 02:44 |
http://www.saabcentral.com/features/9000_index.php -- Last edit: 2006-12-23 03:33:52 |
◊ 2006-12-23 23:54 |
thanks alot for the link by the way check this site www.audivideos.com |
◊ 2006-12-24 14:50 |
Oh great, now I can add all my GS and GSA commercials ![]() ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-24 15:08 |
This was not a 20-second commercial shown on TV ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-27 21:51 |
so what's your verdict, antp ? ![]() |
◊ 2006-12-27 23:51 |
6 vs 6 ![]() But we have more admin & regular members than that... |
◊ 2007-04-10 20:02 |
Then you can list also "The other side of the road" who I sent, who it's a short movie, directed by Wim Wenders. If you list Bmw and Saab's short commercials movies, you can list also this A3 movie. ![]() ![]() |
◊ 2007-04-22 17:52 |
Well? ![]() |
◊ 2007-04-22 18:55 |
Well what? The short movie that you sent? Was it on the forum? Can you please repost the link? ![]() -- Last edit: 2007-04-22 18:56:20 |
◊ 2007-04-22 20:50 |
I missed the discussion but would like to add my comment all the same. This and similar films have more car action than a lot of movies listed here. Therefore I would like to see such films here, too. But we have to avoid that modern commercials are being posted, possibly even deliberately by the companies themselves. My idea is to include a new category called 'Historic Commercial'. To be accepted such films have to have an age of, for example, 20 years minimum. Exceptions can be made for artistically valuable film, like this one. We should implement the rule that visible cars should no longer be available at the dealer's. What do you say? Comments, please. |
◊ 2007-04-22 21:12 |
I would not include this video though |
◊ 2007-04-22 23:09 |
I am not sure that the car must especially be old for being included. I'd say that what is important is rather the length of the video, to exclude the real commercial videos shown on TV etc. We should also exclude videos made exclusively to sell the car (e.g. I think to a Subaru DVD that I have where they simply present all their models), but "artistic" (as you said, or this one) or "short movie" videos are more acceptable. By "short movie" I think to BMW's movies or the one with the Tatra: /movie_1214133-Stastnou-Cestu.html When you say "This and similar films have more car action than a lot of movies listed here", I would say that they are also probably quite valuable for the site, even if not really "movies" (though that for me this is to be considered as a short movie like many others that are listed here and/or on IMDB). -- Last edit: 2007-04-22 23:13:02 |
◊ 2007-04-23 16:25 |
I think we should list anything if it has an IMDB-number. So get rid of the music video's please... |
◊ 2007-04-23 18:01 |
I do not agree. There are many old foreign movies that do not have an IMDB number. And some things have an IMDB number and not much interest for our site (and not only video games). About music videos, I do not know why they are not on IMDB: many movie directors also make/made music videos, and the singers that perform in these videos are already listed on IMDB anyway. For example, do you prefer to list vehicles from a music video, or vehicles that appear in last year MTV Music Awards? First one may be like a short movie, with a story and interesting vehicles, but not on IMDB. Second one is just a TV show, without plot/story/scenario, probably nothing rare/interesting as vehicles (maybe some limousines seen when singers arrive to the show), but it is on IMDB. -- Last edit: 2007-04-23 18:03:10 |
◊ 2007-04-23 20:02 |
Movies can be listed allways (even if they don't have an IMCDB-number). But I agree with you that a music video is more important than the MTV-award show. I just think that music video's don't belong here, in a couple of years there are more music videos than movies... -- Last edit: 2007-04-23 20:02:51 |
◊ 2007-04-27 21:29 |
This makes sense, for this Saab film, whether ad, promotional film or film proper, is an important car movie. So are Jamaroquoi's videos for the same reason. Arguably, some ads, like Tony Scott's Saab commercial that landed him 'Top Gun', are important car movies too, although I am biased as I write TV ads for a living! Incidentally, 'Mission Zero', in my opinion, is a 480-second commercial that's secured an IMDB listing somehow. Plus, '100 Greatest TV Ads' is also listed on IMDB - are the handful of cars in that show allowed to be listed?! |
◊ 2009-12-29 01:18 |
Goodbye Saab. I will miss you. ![]() |
◊ 2009-12-29 02:19 |
Me too ![]() |