Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: — Built in:
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2007-04-28 20:44 |
Looks like an armoured vehicle of some kind. |
◊ 2007-04-28 22:17 |
As this was filmed in Zimbabwe it might be a APC called 'Crocodile'. I have no further information about these vehicles except that 40 were used by the Zimbabwean Army. All other vehicles used by the Army look different. Of course there is a good chance that it is either a vehicle used by the Police Force of Zimbabwe or simply a 'Made for Movie' truck that tries to impersonate the South-African APC by Reumech OMC or BAE OMC. |
◊ 2007-04-28 23:58 |
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◊ 2007-04-29 02:01 |
As we can see a number of similar vehicles on the small image I am quite certain that it is not 'Made for Movie', but a real APC. So perhasp my first idea is correct and this ia an Crocodile APC. Now we 'only' have to find the maker and an image to prove the name! -- Last edit: 2007-04-29 02:02:14 |
◊ 2007-04-29 02:09 |
Whatever it is, it serves in the film as a stand-in for the Casspir, which was widely (and notoriously) used by the South African police to suppress protests in the townships. IIRC, during the civil war in the 1970s the Rhodesian army made the first mine-protected armoured vehicles by fixing armour plating onto civilian truck chassis -- maybe those were Crocodiles. -- Last edit: 2007-04-29 02:16:30 |
◊ 2007-05-03 22:20 |
I'm 99% sure this is not an SA vehicle, and the idea that it might be a Zim vehicle appeals to me (I don't know the latter at all). Models of the SA APCs used can be seen at http://armed-assault.net/bushwars/, with photos of the actual vehicles appearing at http://uk.geocities.com/sadf_history2/compadre.html. It could be something mocked up to look like the Wolf or the Hippo (check latter link) but there are marked differences to both of them. |
◊ 2007-05-03 22:22 |
Sorry, forgot to mention - the events of the film would pre-date the Casspir, IIRC. If the vehicles in the pictures were based on a Zim vehicle, chances are that it would have Russian underpinnings. -- Last edit: 2007-05-03 22:23:23 |
◊ 2007-05-03 23:19 |
I was thinking they might be something made in Rhodesia during the 1970s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War#ZANLA -- Last edit: 2007-05-03 23:27:53 |
◊ 2007-05-08 07:38 |
vehicle is a "Hippo" armoured car..the front is totally wrong for "crocodile"..crocodile has quadruple headlamps set in pairs, side by side, and the front windshield armour slopes back on itself,as does the side armour, whereas those in the picture are straight up and down. "Hippo" is South african built on the british Bedford model MK 4x4 military chassis, and has accomodation for about 10 personnel..as you can see from the picture, the sloping engine compartment is not armoured, it is simply covered by a canvas cover. As for the "crocodile " debate..way back in the early 1960s the Swedish contingent of the UN forces in the Congo employed the swedish Terrangbil Model 1942 KP armoured car, a vehicle designed in 1944, and after they left, the Rhodesian forces copied the body layout but using the Nissan LWB 5 ton commercial chassis as its base, and the crocodile was born, they also used the Izuzu chassis...the smaller Army version of the vehicle uses the Mercedes Benz Unimog chassis. -- Last edit: 2007-05-08 07:52:06 |
◊ 2007-06-22 21:00 |
This is an intresting document: http://www.africancrisis.org/photos5.asp |
◊ 2007-06-22 21:34 |
Yes, but it's written by an unapologetic white colonial "Rhodie" who claims that only "Marxists" ever planted landmines in southern Africa. http://www.africancrisis.org/Photos.asp -- Last edit: 2007-06-22 21:37:58 |
◊ 2007-06-23 08:15 |
I only looked at the pictures on that page, quite horrible images further... I haven't read the text. |
◊ 2016-04-10 17:50 |
Year: 1970+. Model isn't "MK 'Hippo'" but "Hippo". Extra info: Personel Carrier. Origin: South Africa. /vehicle_564311-Bedford-Hippo-1970.html /vehicle_564350-Bedford-Hippo-1970.html |
◊ 2016-04-10 18:11 |
^ Looks as if we should combine MK 'Hippo' and plain Hippo into one batch, but comments on which name to use?? Or maybe hybrid as Hippo [MK] if MK reference is important?? |
◊ 2016-04-11 20:13 |
Hippo sounds more like a nickname, I'd guess MK 'Hippo' is better than just Hippo. |