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1970 Bedford MK 'Hippo' Personnel Carrier

1970 Bedford MK 'Hippo' in Cry Freedom, Movie, 1987 IMDB

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: UK — Built in: ZA

1970 Bedford MK 'Hippo' Personnel Carrier

Pos: 00:10:34 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-04-28 20:44

Looks like an armoured vehicle of some kind.

Alexander DE

2007-04-28 22:17

As this was filmed in Zimbabwe it might be a APC called 'Crocodile'. I have no further information about these vehicles except that 40 were used by the Zimbabwean Army. All other vehicles used by the Army look different.

Of course there is a good chance that it is either a vehicle used by the Police Force of Zimbabwe or simply a 'Made for Movie' truck that tries to impersonate the South-African APC by Reumech OMC or BAE OMC.

coopey ES

2007-04-28 23:58

[Image: vlcsnap274463wx3.3050.jpg] same truck, but a bit confusing, is police mixed with army, or is the truck exclusivelly used by police?

Alexander DE

2007-04-29 02:01

As we can see a number of similar vehicles on the small image I am quite certain that it is not 'Made for Movie', but a real APC. So perhasp my first idea is correct and this ia an Crocodile APC. Now we 'only' have to find the maker and an image to prove the name!

-- Last edit: 2007-04-29 02:02:14

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-04-29 02:09

Whatever it is, it serves in the film as a stand-in for the Casspir, which was widely (and notoriously) used by the South African police to suppress protests in the townships.

IIRC, during the civil war in the 1970s the Rhodesian army made the first mine-protected armoured vehicles by fixing armour plating onto civilian truck chassis -- maybe those were Crocodiles.

-- Last edit: 2007-04-29 02:16:30

Citsa ZA

2007-05-03 22:20

I'm 99% sure this is not an SA vehicle, and the idea that it might be a Zim vehicle appeals to me (I don't know the latter at all).

Models of the SA APCs used can be seen at http://armed-assault.net/bushwars/, with photos of the actual vehicles appearing at http://uk.geocities.com/sadf_history2/compadre.html. It could be something mocked up to look like the Wolf or the Hippo (check latter link) but there are marked differences to both of them.

Citsa ZA

2007-05-03 22:22

Sorry, forgot to mention - the events of the film would pre-date the Casspir, IIRC. If the vehicles in the pictures were based on a Zim vehicle, chances are that it would have Russian underpinnings.

-- Last edit: 2007-05-03 22:23:23

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-05-03 23:19

I was thinking they might be something made in Rhodesia during the 1970s.
Quote ...the Rhodesians co-operated with the South Africans to develop a range of mine protected vehicles. They began by replacing air in tyres with water which absorbed some of the blast and reduced the heat of the explosion. Initially, they protected the bodies with steel deflector plates, sandbags and mine conveyor belting. Later, purpose built vehicles with V shaped blast hulls dispersed the blast. (The development led to the South African Hippo, Casspir, Mamba and Nyala wheeled light troop carriers).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesian_Bush_War#ZANLA

-- Last edit: 2007-05-03 23:27:53

2491tj EN

2007-05-08 07:38

vehicle is a "Hippo" armoured car..the front is totally wrong for "crocodile"..crocodile has quadruple headlamps set in pairs, side by side, and the front windshield armour slopes back on itself,as does the side armour, whereas those in the picture are straight up and down.
"Hippo" is South african built on the british Bedford model MK 4x4 military chassis, and has accomodation for about 10 personnel..as you can see from the picture, the sloping engine compartment is not armoured, it is simply covered by a canvas cover.
As for the "crocodile " debate..way back in the early 1960s the Swedish contingent of the UN forces in the Congo employed the swedish Terrangbil Model 1942 KP armoured car, a vehicle designed in 1944, and after they left, the Rhodesian forces copied the body layout but using the Nissan LWB 5 ton commercial chassis as its base, and the crocodile was born, they also used the Izuzu chassis...the smaller Army version of the vehicle uses the Mercedes Benz Unimog chassis.

-- Last edit: 2007-05-08 07:52:06

garco NL

2007-06-22 21:00

This is an intresting document: http://www.africancrisis.org/photos5.asp

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-06-22 21:34

Yes, but it's written by an unapologetic white colonial "Rhodie" who claims that only "Marxists" ever planted landmines in southern Africa.
Quote For decades the world was inundated with anti-Colonial propaganda of communist origin. To this day, people mock us when we tell them that the communists, especially the Russians, and to a lesser degree, the Chinese, came after us. Terror is nothing new. Terror is an old communist tactic.

http://www.africancrisis.org/Photos.asp

-- Last edit: 2007-06-22 21:37:58

garco NL

2007-06-23 08:15

I only looked at the pictures on that page, quite horrible images further...
I haven't read the text.

JB FR

2016-04-10 17:50

Year: 1970+.
Model isn't "MK 'Hippo'" but "Hippo".
Extra info: Personel Carrier.
Origin: South Africa.
/vehicle_564311-Bedford-Hippo-1970.html
/vehicle_564350-Bedford-Hippo-1970.html

dsl SX

2016-04-10 18:11

^ Looks as if we should combine MK 'Hippo' and plain Hippo into one batch, but comments on which name to use??

Or maybe hybrid as Hippo [MK] if MK reference is important??

antp BE

2016-04-11 20:13

Hippo sounds more like a nickname, I'd guess MK 'Hippo' is better than just Hippo.

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