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Ingo ◊ 2009-01-28 10:52	fake plate. hannover-town (by the combination) has no stickers, it has plastic-signets.
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-09 19:55	@tonkatracker: Something for you? Link to "suchen.mobile.de" Due colur sheme and date of the first registration, it seems to be something really rare, an original DDR-fire brigade-car! Slightly different: Link to "suchen.mobile.de" About the Niva's reputation: sure, as a cheap clunker with ancient coarse Soviet low-tech - but indeed as one of the last real authentic 4x4-Offroaders and not as some bling-bling SUV-in-crowd toy. So quite close to a classic basic Landrover, Landcruiser, Patrol or Mercedes G - but it costs much less than a half of these. (cough sorry, but Suzuki-4x4 aren't playing in that repuatation-league. They are too small ) About the problems to get an US-registration such imported cars, younger than 25 years: would it be easier with a Niva, as this model-line is on the market since 1977, nearly unaltered, except the new taillight- and back panel-design in 1994, as to see above? If not, it should be makeable to fiddle a bit with the papers, as they all are looking identical....
tonkatracker ◊ 2011-05-09 20:12	I am not worried about the problems registering one as a title from an earlier junker is probably easy to come by from my friend in Canada :D, I have an acquaintance that has 3 or 4 of the newer Mexican built Beetles (one is from the last run or something and has lots of chrome, etc) who uses titles from some old US-Spec Typ1 that he has for junkers to register. and about the Suzukis isn't the Niva about the size of say a 1st generation Vitara (1989-1998) ? -- Last edit: 2011-05-09 20:12:52
Sandie ◊ 2011-05-09 20:18	Slightly bigger. About a million years ago a family friend had one. Dark blue and rusted to hell. Used to be pretty common here. On the subject of awesomely utilitarian Russian jeeps I saw a pretty new UAZ for sale here about 5 years ago. Very cheap too. -- Last edit: 2011-05-09 20:20:40
Nightrider ◊ 2011-05-09 20:25	Tonka, have you ever ride on backseat of it?
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-09 20:26	Yes, the Vitara is the same size, but it has really more the repuation as a fun-car, not as a workhorse as the Niva. I don't think, that some of them are still in official use Link to "www.google.de" but several of them for sure Link to "www.google.de" All are from the last DDR-years. In Western Germany it was bought by some authorities, too, but not for police or fire-fighters, more b National Park-administrators. Even today rangers and hunters and gamekeepers are buying the Niva. Also for the reason, that the other real 4x4-vehicles are so incredible expensive. Some finds for you: Link to "www.google.de" This is one of the Suzuki's, I've mentioned recently. Ah, it's still in use http://www.feuerwehr-schmalfoerden.de/3.html On of its brothers in the same county (they had more of them there), which were sold: http://www.zoll-auktion.de/auktion/auktion.php?id=227139 Shall I go on the hunt for you? The transport to the USA will be manageable. -- Last edit: 2011-05-09 20:29:21
Sandie ◊ 2011-05-09 20:32	Nightrider wrote Tonka, have you ever ride on backseat of it? As he likes Suzuki 4x4s he either doesn't try to sit in the back or he is four foot tall. I still hurt from the time I sat in the back of a Suzuki Jimny (the newer version of the Samurai) and that was years ago.
Nightrider ◊ 2011-05-09 20:36	Sandie wrote As he likes Suzuki 4x4s he either doesn't try to sit in the back or he is four foot tall. Strange, that 2+2 layout reserved for sports cars...
tonkatracker ◊ 2011-05-09 20:43	I have never been in a Niva, and I have only been in the backseat of Samurais and Vitara/Trackers with the top removed and even then no one could sit beside me. but then again at 6'1" tall and 270 lbs I don't really fit in the backseat of many cars (and why would I need to? The back seat is for children[and my wife when she gets on my nerves ])
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-09 20:47	tonkatracker wrote but then again at 6'1" tall and 270 lbs Sorry, but Nightrider and me, we are thinking metric Sandie maybe will understand it - except the weight. The British are mentally still handling with "stones" O.k. we Germans are cdoing similar with "Pfund" (500 grams) and "PS" (hp) http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pferdest%C3%A4rke Both were officially out of use since 1977, but it's still in the brains. As the D-Mark, for sure, too.
tonkatracker ◊ 2011-05-09 20:52	ingo wrote Yes, the Vitara is the same size, but it has really more the repuation as a fun-car, not as a workhorse as the Niva. and I know that the Vitara has that reputation but I have built some pretty capable ones but I wouldn't sit in the back of any of them, including the 5-door
tonkatracker ◊ 2011-05-09 20:54	sorry, I am 1.8542 meters tall and weigh 122.5 kgs
Nightrider ◊ 2011-05-09 21:01	There was very capable Eagles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcXC5IUOdFk And somewhat capable Fleetwoods http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm9817oDGUo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlBUYVOjSTQ
Sandie ◊ 2011-05-09 21:04	Here was me expecting a link to Hotel California and Albatross.
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-09 21:10	Hrrmpfhh, I cannot find the pic of the "Mud-Party-Thing", the VW 181, which my fellows from the "Kübelclub" have created some years ago for their club-meetings. Huge tires, no fenders, no frontscreen, widened door-openings, really funny. Sure, they have always a mudpit on these events. Unfortunately they are holding their big yearly meeting always at Whitsun, as we, too. Since 17 years is an unredeemed bet running between their 2nd chairman and me: which car is better to drive in a mudpit
dsl ◊ 2011-05-09 21:10	Is a Cadillac raincoat a Fleetwood Mac?
cl82 ◊ 2011-05-09 22:24	@Dsl: No offense, but the 70s are over.
chicomarx ◊ 2011-05-09 22:25	Somebody wanted Albatross? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U
dsl ◊ 2011-05-09 23:15	chicomarx wrote Somebody wanted Albatross? For cl82 - the 70s are still bubbling away nicely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUltAuiLIis . But if you want their epitath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9ekL9lohk .
cl82 ◊ 2011-05-09 23:53	The Osmonds? Uargh! I prefer this "Epitaph": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhuG2hCJtsk To tell you the truth: I actually quite like 1970s music (at least most of it), but Fleetwood Mac just isn't my cup of tea.
Nightrider ◊ 2011-05-10 00:18	As for Nivas... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwuG6TNdI4s
dsl ◊ 2011-05-10 00:23	Epitath my favourite KC track. For several years I had a favourite cassette with this epic immediately afterwards - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6X-y_m5JD4 .
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-10 08:16	cl82 wrote @Dsl: No offense, but the 70s are over. Very sad, this The cars were better there, the music, the design of house-interior and many more... O.k., clothing not really (I remember from my childhood the terrible synthetic pullovers . YUK!). Some architecture wasn't bad, too, but it was still a decade, where many century-old buildings were crushed to make space for new, huge concrete-monstrosities.
Ingo ◊ 2011-05-10 10:31	A real special 4x4-car with a historical background. These guys http://www.brixmis.co.uk/ had more of them, but as we've found out (a fellow of my plate-collector-clique has written a book about that, released a few days ago, sorry, only in German until now), only of them is still existing, plus one fake somewhere. http://www.alt-opel.eu/clubzeitung05/Senator-Allrad.pdf Their French http://www.mmflpotsdam.free.fr/ and US-colleagues http://www.usmlm.org/ had some interesting cars, too. When I've some time, I can dig for pics.
antp ◊ 2011-05-10 14:52	cl82 wrote @Dsl: No offense, but the 70s are over. If only the off-topic discussions were also from the 70s...
Nightrider ◊ 2011-05-10 15:00	antp wrote If only the off-topic discussions were also from the 70s... Then moderators would be unneccessary.
cl82 ◊ 2011-05-10 16:56	@Dsl: Very impressive indeed. Thanks a lot!
dsl ◊ 2011-05-10 18:45	@cl82 - Thanks. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65Ee58UCQw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvjssJ7RRLM (PFM had KC connections through Pete Sinfield and their 70s LPs are worth exploring). But I think the antp-radar is active so am ending this off-piste adventure. -- Last edit: 2011-05-10 18:50:36

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