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1964 Austin Mini Cooper S 1275 MkI [ADO50]

1964 Austin Mini Cooper S 1275 MkI [ADO50] in 33 Days, Documentary, 2014 IMDB

Class: Cars, Supermini — Model origin: UK

1964 Austin Mini Cooper S 1275 MkI [ADO50]

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AleX_DJ AT

2018-09-26 20:16

[Image: 33days201403384.jpg]

dsl SX

2018-09-29 19:42

LHD Austin Mk1 Mini Something. 9326 xx plate could be UK or maybe F. Cooper possible or even probable, but a context would be useful to try to pin it down. Doesn't at this stage smell like a works car, so possibilities are wide open.

Sierra Indigo UK

2022-07-06 18:01

UK registered Cooper 932 GYE

dsl SX

2022-07-06 19:48

932 GYE was London, Oct 63 to March 64, "allocated in blocks". Some google hits as an Austin Cooper S, LHD, raced in Austria around 1967 by Fritz Baumgartner - https://www.racingsportscars.com/suffix/archive/Austin/Mini%20Cooper/S.html?page=7 , Link to "www.miniseite.at" , Link to "www.racedepartment.com"

MiNiKiN AT

2024-01-29 11:26

Some facts about "932 GYE": As stated this was the Mini of successful Austrian touring car driver Fritz Baumgartner. Fritz Baumgartner sold it to Niki Lauda who then started his racing career in this car.
"932 GYE" probably started its life as a simple red 850 Mini Mk1 and was fitted with Cooper S running gear (a not too uncommon practice back then).
Niki bought the car for the sum of 38,000 Austrian Schilling (a bit more than half of what a new Cooper S would have cost). He participated in his first race, a hillclimb in Bad Mühllacken and some further race in the 1968 season. But within that said season he upgraded to Peter Peter's Porsche 911. The above Mini (932 GYE) was then sold to Otto Stuppacher, then to Helmut Koinigg and it ended its life in 1974 when it was finally "disected" by Baumgartner's competitor Hans Schnabl, who wanted to know why this car was always a tad faster than his.

So this photo should, in my opinion, at least get a 4 star rating, because it is directly related to Niki Lauda.

N.B.: The number plate may be a central London late, but the car was not a UK-registered car. "Wearing" English plates was just a trend in the Austrian racer scene back then.
All of above information comes from persons directly involved in the history of this car.
And - last but not least - the Mini shown in the book "To hell and Back" about Lauda is neither Lauda nor his race Mini. Just saying... ;)

MiNiKiN AT

2024-01-29 11:29

AleX_DJ wrote [Image: 33days201403384.jpg]

Hi Alex,
I would be interested in the source of this photo. I hadn't seen it yet. Would be great for my research
Thanks
Marcus

AleX_DJ AT

2024-01-29 12:17

MiNiKiN wrote
Hi Alex,
I would be interested in the source of this photo. I hadn't seen it yet. Would be great for my research
Thanks
Marcus


Hi Marcus! I need to check back in the movie, I'll give a try later today :)

dsl SX

2024-01-29 13:01

If it's a genuine Cooper S it would have twin fuel caps, with the second on the far side, outside the edge of the main photo. None of the photos I can find online give a view to show that angle. Other details would include an S on the boot badge and a smaller one on the bonnet above the main winged badge. Across all the photos I've seen, it could be based on a simple Mini 850 as mentioned or on a plain non-S Cooper. Nothing visible to date it - generic range of 1960-67, or 1962 onwards if a plain Cooper for which bonnet and boot badges are correct.

MiNiKiN AT

2024-01-29 17:17

dsl wrote If it's a genuine Cooper S it would have twin fuel caps, with the second on the far side, outside the edge of the main photo. None of the photos I can find online give a view to show that angle. Other details would include an S on the boot badge and a smaller one on the bonnet above the main winged badge. Across all the photos I've seen, it could be based on a simple Mini 850 as mentioned or on a plain non-S Cooper. Nothing visible to date it - generic range of 1960-67, or 1962 onwards if a plain Cooper for which bonnet and boot badges are correct.


It's a common believe that Cooper S' generally had twin tanks - but its a falacy. Twin tanks were an optional extra at first and only later were introduced as standard. This car has no RH-tank - I do have a rear end photo.
932 GYE though has already cutouts in the front panel which either suggests it is a post May 64 chassis or front panel had been replaced.
Further clues that it is not an S are: no door chrome, and the standard single colour rear seat.
The VIN on the race registrations has a Morris Cooper prefix - but that doesn't mean a lot - could be easily bolted on like the complete set of Austin Cooper S badges it was wearing then and later.
Finally I have the credible information of Fritz' race mechanic that this Mini was based on a non-Cooper.

@Alex: I need to watch the film myself anyway. Really nice to find to have Fritz' Mini in this documentary.

gotta stop here now, or some may start thinking I am a bit anal bout this car ;)

MiNiKiN AT

2024-01-29 17:24

dsl wrote 932 GYE was London, Oct 63 to March 64, "allocated in blocks". Some google hits as an Austin Cooper S, LHD, raced in Austria around 1967 by Fritz Baumgartner - https://www.racingsportscars.com/suffix/archive/Austin/Mini%20Cooper/S.html?page=7 , Link to "www.miniseite.at" , Link to "www.racedepartment.com"


Thanks for referencing my - meanwhile somewhat outdated - post in the Austrian Mini Forum. It is a circular reference though.

dsl SX

2024-01-29 17:34

Agreed about twin tanks - they were option on S until standardised in January 66, a point I keep forgetting :whistle:

If you've got the VIN, I may be able to identify the version it came from, but no guarantee this will work.

MiNiKiN AT

2024-01-29 22:03

dsl wrote Agreed about twin tanks - they were option on S until standardised in January 66, a point I keep forgetting :whistle:

If you've got the VIN, I may be able to identify the version it came from, but no guarantee this will work.


Cheekily Lauda only provided 3 out of 6 digits of the actual VIN on the registration form.I already tried to narrow down the origin of the VIN-plate. Sorry, but understandably, I am not going to share it.

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