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◊ 2007-10-31 19:46 |
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◊ 2007-10-31 19:46 |
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◊ 2007-10-31 19:56 |
Orign Sweden is not correct, it's made in the Netherlands, like all of the 3-series (originally planned as a DAF 77) |
◊ 2007-10-31 20:01 |
So is 66/440/460/480/S40/V40/S40N/V50, I read that it was decided to list these Volvos as Swedish. |
◊ 2007-10-31 20:48 |
Here we go again... Mitsubishi's Carisma/Colt, Smart's are also built in the Netherlands |
◊ 2007-10-31 21:24 |
Yes, a new start of the old discussion. With the 3-series for me there is no point of discussion, that it's a total Dutch car. Planned, constructed and produced in the Netherlands, just the owner of the factory has changed shortly before the production-start. |
◊ 2007-10-31 21:25 |
Yes, maybe I agree in this case for the 340/360 |
◊ 2007-10-31 21:28 |
When you declare the Volvo 3-series as a Swedish car, for the same reason you must declare these Dodge Avenger-derivates, which Volkswagen took over together with the Ford-factory in Argentina in the late 70ies, and which were further produced as VW's, as a German car, too. |
◊ 2007-10-31 22:22 |
You mean "Chrysler" rather than "Ford" factory, don't you? |
◊ 2007-10-31 23:04 |
No, there was something with Ford Argentina. Somewhere in my cellar must be an old car-magazine with an article about that. Surely I was wondering about the relation Chrysler-Ford-VW, but as I remember, were these "Dodge-VW's" built as Ford's after Ford has bought the Argentinian Chrysler-factory years before. Later VW has bought the factory and the cars got a third badge. There are some pics of these cars (as VW's) in this forum, posted ca.2 or 3 weeks ago. |
◊ 2007-10-31 23:07 |
Chrysler Argentina, which made the Avenger-based Dodge 1500, went straight to Volkswagen. OTOH, Volkswagen formed a JV called "Autolatina" with Ford, which encompassed a model-sharing strategy which resulted in the likes of VW Logus and Pointer and Ford Versailles. The Dodge 1500 also resembled a Ford Escort or Capri a little bit, but no Ford was involved. |
◊ 2007-10-31 23:14 |
O.k., you're right. Yes, I forgot the "Autolatina"-story. But I've a picture of such a Dodge 1500 in my mind, which had a Ford-logo. I'm grumbling, if it was in a car-magazine, of if I have seen such a car in real, last year at our vacations in Chile. |
◊ 2007-11-01 00:09 |
The 1970s Ford Escort (also made in Brazil, IIRC, not sure about Argentina) was quite similar to the Dodge 1500, or the other way around: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/Escort_Mk2_Rally.jpg http://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/images/thecars/dodge_12.jpg |
◊ 2007-11-01 00:22 |
No, I don't mix up the 1975-81 Escort MkII with the Avenger. Somewhere in the back of my brain rumbles around this pic of a Argentinian Avenger with Ford-logo. |
◊ 2007-11-01 11:33 |
To come back to Dutch Volvos, the Volvo 66 was already listed as Dutch. I do not remember what was said previously about the 300-series but I agree that this one is more Dutch than Swedish (developped by the "DAF team"). But about the next models (400-series, S40, etc.), I do not know if they are still so much non-Swedish? (omitting the fact that they are built in the Netherlands) -- Last edit: 2007-11-01 11:40:09 |
◊ 2007-12-30 01:54 |
Painted as an Iraqi taxi. For a real one see /vehicle_134896-Toyota-Crown-S120-1983.html |