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1931 Bugatti Type 41 Royale Coupé de Ville Binder [41.111]

1931 Bugatti Type 41 Royale [41.111] in The History of Bugatti: The Definitive Story, Documentary Ep. 2.07

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin:

1931 Bugatti Type 41 Royale Coupé de Ville Binder [41.111]

00:00:07 Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

Author	Message
bref ◊ 2007-12-27 23:03	Coupé de Ville Binder, chassis 41.111
marioman3138 ◊ 2009-02-19 09:22	1931+
stronghold ◊ 2011-08-31 08:35	Replaced main pic with a better view of the car -- Last edit: 2011-08-31 09:54:09
bugatti69 ◊ 2013-04-10 23:08	Bugatti type 41 Royale Coupe de Ville by Henri Binder of Paris 1939 See : http://www.bugattiregister.com/wiki/index.php?title=41111
Stevil101 ◊ 2020-12-21 17:20	Wikipedia says Chassis No. 41111 was sold on April 1932 to French clothing manufacturer Armand Esders. I can't tell if the correct model year is 1931 or 1932. It really confuses me because I have been given a few different results for what year it is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Royale -- Last edit: 2020-12-21 17:26:01
Baube ◊ 2020-12-21 17:44	said sold in 1932, could have been built earlier and sold later 12.7L inline-8 .. hello fuel economy...
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-12-21 18:15	When you are speaking of a car of which there were 7 built over a period of 6 years, and 6 remain, surely the concept of “model year” is ridiculous. All the cars were coachbuilt to individual designs, no two being the same. -- Last edit: 2020-12-21 18:20:53
Stevil101 ◊ 2020-12-21 23:30	I would agree, but I'm just trying to figure out when this exact unit was built.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-12-21 23:35	The chassis, or when the body was built? There could be years difference.
Stevil101 ◊ 2020-12-21 23:37	The car in general, not it's current Binder body.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-12-21 23:40	The chassis, as original left the works at Molsheim without a body, they then built and fitted the original body, the Binder body was a replacement for that, the first body being “fashioned by Jean, Esders’ son.” -- Last edit: 2020-12-21 23:45:21
Stevil101 ◊ 2020-12-21 23:48	That makes lots of sense, so I would like to know the exact year the chassis was built. I have been given a few results on the internet. Some described the car as a 1931, and others said 1932.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2020-12-22 00:13	As I have insider knowledge of the ways of the motor industry, nothing would surprise me. Bugatti aimed at 25 cars of type 41, so he possibly laid down say 30 sets of chassis pressings in 1927, although may be the parts were hand built, as the cost of press tools for such a short run would be excessive, assuming that they could press longitudinal pieces of that length in the twenties. Even if it was a knife and fork job you might build the chassis frames all at one shot, and store them until necessary. When you get an order, withdraw a bare frame from stock and start assembly. It seems that the engines were all laid down together, for he disposed of the left over units into the rail cars after some modification. -- Last edit: 2020-12-22 00:25:31

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