1931 Alvis 12/50 TJ Recreated Tourer body by Breese [25392]

1931 Alvis 12/50 TJ [25392] in Classic British Cars: Made in Coventry, Documentary, 2021

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1931 Alvis 12/50 TJ Recreated Tourer body by Breese [25392]

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dsl ◊ 2021-06-10 02:27	This one's the smaller dark blue with brass radiator, also seen in background of this pic from another site. But no clue to plate or other helpful hints.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-06-10 09:16	On numbers surviving, suggest 12/50. 412 12/50s survive, 34 12/40s and 114;12/60s. So little detail is available/visible that distinguishing marks are scarce. -- Last edit: 2021-06-10 09:17:04
dsl ◊ 2021-06-17 00:51	Got it - https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/alvis/12-50/12-50-tj/1931/208964 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8ATlJ4nbc - modern body recreation on a 1931 12/50 TJ, confirmed match for the cream scuttle detailing and the red licence holder in windscreen. Not a brass radiator - just a lighting effect (although it seems to have brass headlight sockets in the video) 8668 VC plate leads to this undated auction listing for chassis 25392, Alvis TJ 12/50, 1931, Blue/Cream, 1645 cc - "This TJ 12/50 started life with a fawn coloured Cross and Ellis 2-seater body with red wire wheels and red leather. Delivered to its first owner, Mr. Frank Wood of Birmingham, it was despatched from the Coventry works on 3 July 1931 to Frank Hallan, the Birmingham Alvis agent. Nothing is known of its subsequent history until it turned up in Helensburgh, however it had been converted into a special and partly restored when it came into the hands of the current vendor in the late ‘90s. As there was no real bodywork to speak of, the vendor decided to restore the car with the looks of the earlier TG model with its shorter radiator and more elegant lines. The work was entrusted to well known Alvis exponent Ian Harris, who undertook a thorough chassis overhaul including suspension and brakes. New white metaling and a crank re-grind was done by Cotswold Engineering, the 1645cc engine having a big port head fitted. A new manifold and stainless exhaust were also fitted and the Marles steering box was rebuilt (a must on a 12/50 of this period). The bodywork was replaced with a Phil Kneller Cross and Ellis replica, the trim being undertaken by Anne Taylor which includes dark blue leather upholstery, a tonneau cover and a full hood and sidescreens. The instruments are correct for the period and the car has its correct Hare mascot." The video suggests the bodywork is by Breese, presumably the name of the 1990s owner who commissioned the restyle.

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dsl

◊ 2021-06-10 02:27

This one's the smaller dark blue with brass radiator, also seen in background of this pic from another site. But no clue to plate or other helpful hints.

johnfromstaffs

◊ 2021-06-10 09:16

On numbers surviving, suggest 12/50. 412 12/50s survive, 34 12/40s and 114;12/60s.

So little detail is available/visible that distinguishing marks are scarce.

-- Last edit: 2021-06-10 09:17:04

dsl

◊ 2021-06-17 00:51

Got it - https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/alvis/12-50/12-50-tj/1931/208964 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-8ATlJ4nbc - modern body recreation on a 1931 12/50 TJ, confirmed match for the cream scuttle detailing and the red licence holder in windscreen. Not a brass radiator - just a lighting effect (although it seems to have brass headlight sockets in the video)

8668 VC plate leads to this undated auction listing for chassis 25392, Alvis TJ 12/50, 1931, Blue/Cream, 1645 cc - "This TJ 12/50 started life with a fawn coloured Cross and Ellis 2-seater body with red wire wheels and red leather. Delivered to its first owner, Mr. Frank Wood of Birmingham, it was despatched from the Coventry works on 3 July 1931 to Frank Hallan, the Birmingham Alvis agent. Nothing is known of its subsequent history until it turned up in Helensburgh, however it had been converted into a special and partly restored when it came into the hands of the current vendor in the late ‘90s. As there was no real bodywork to speak of, the vendor decided to restore the car with the looks of the earlier TG model with its shorter radiator and more elegant lines. The work was entrusted to well known Alvis exponent Ian Harris, who undertook a thorough chassis overhaul including suspension and brakes. New white metaling and a crank re-grind was done by Cotswold Engineering, the 1645cc engine having a big port head fitted. A new manifold and stainless exhaust were also fitted and the Marles steering box was rebuilt (a must on a 12/50 of this period). The bodywork was replaced with a Phil Kneller Cross and Ellis replica, the trim being undertaken by Anne Taylor which includes dark blue leather upholstery, a tonneau cover and a full hood and sidescreens. The instruments are correct for the period and the car has its correct Hare mascot."

The video suggests the bodywork is by Breese, presumably the name of the 1990s owner who commissioned the restyle.

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1931 Alvis 12/50 TJ Recreated Tourer body by Breese [25392]

1931 Alvis 12/50 TJ [25392] in Classic British Cars: Made in Coventry, Documentary, 2021

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