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AleX_DJ ◊ 2021-10-08 20:20
AleX_DJ ◊ 2021-10-08 20:25	AG604SS Cilindrata 1929 Alimentazione Diesel Cavalli 65 Classe ambientale Euro1 Immatricolazione Marzo 1996 Telaio ZFA15900005013831 CarID 7874 Brand FIAT ManufacturerId 524 Catalog FFIAT84 Model NJ Name TEMPRA-MARENGO [TEMPRA MQ.93 D-TD (1993-1996)] Date 19.12.1995 MVS 159.979.0.0 MVSDesc BN "SS. TAXI"1930 TURBO DS EngineNo 1764431 Date 19/12/1995 SpecialVersion БН ТАКСИ (И) '95 (LV15) Engine 1930 TURBO (M2) Variant БН."S" (V1) Plate check returns a 65 hp engine, which would correspond to a 1.9 D naturally aspired version. VIN sheet returns a 1.9 TD
Bux_48 ◊ 2021-10-08 20:40	I believe that plate check is wrong and this is a "TD SX", as, according to this December 1995 price list, there wasn't the S trim combined with the Turbodiesel engine nor the SX with naturally aspirated engine, unless things were different for official Taxi versions (don't think though)
AleX_DJ ◊ 2021-10-08 20:58	But wheels are of the S version Link to "commons.wikimedia.org" Here seems that the 1.9 TD in S trim was available for only one year until December 1995, so this must be one of the latest ones
Bux_48 ◊ 2021-10-08 21:29	Indeed, curiously this was built a month after the price list I posted -- Last edit: 2021-10-08 21:36:20
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-06-16 15:07	AG604SS Telaio: ZFA15900005013831 Motore: 160A7.000 Immatricolazione Italia: 04/03/1996 Here again as naturally aspired diesel
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-16 15:44	Strange who is more trustworthy? I think the VIN, since we already saw some wrong description from apps/site (just yesterday the Uno 45 i.e.), even if we got also some opinable results from VINs (like the Uno of a few days ago), but I believe they are rarer.
dsl ◊ 2022-06-16 15:57	Bux_48 wrote ....unless things were different for official Taxi versions (don't think though) Why not?? As comparison in UK at roughly same time, the Skoda Octavia was very popular minicab with non-turbo SD engine, mainly supplied through trade agencies rather than public showrooms. I don't have any detail, but I think there was a choice of trim levels offered. Same thing may have happened here a few years later with Kia Ceed estates, and more recently some Seats and more Skodas, all of which had episodes of dominating minicab fleets in bursts.
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-16 16:04	Yes, I think I changed my mind since then I wasn't really aware of a separate Taxi version until they started to appear in VINs, so I believe there could have been different permutations for official cabs. I even read someone referring to a number of Tempra 1.1 (built for several export markets, not sold in Italy) destined to taxi use in Turin, but no proof this actually happened.
dsl ◊ 2022-06-17 18:34	Bux_48 wrote Tempra 1.1 (built for several export markets, not sold in Italy) A recipe for Greece??
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-17 19:04	Yes and IIRC Portugal and Czech Republic.
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-06-17 20:44	Or maybe a legend as like the one of the Lancia Thema 1.6?
Sandie ◊ 2022-06-17 20:46	If I remember well the thing with the Octavia wasn't them being non-turbo, but them actually being the previous generation model: /vehicle_1497086-Skoda-Octavia-Tour-Typ-1U-2007.html
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-17 20:48	I think the Tempra was found in some price list or similar, and appears in several parts sites, the Thema 1.6 was a totally unproven urban myth
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-06-17 20:49	Sandie wrote If I remember well the thing with the Octavia wasn't them being non-turbo, but them actually being the previous generation model: Wasn't the Octavia SDI regularly sold in UK?
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-06-17 20:51	Bux_48 wrote I think the Tempra was found in some price list or similar, and appears in several parts sites, the Thema 1.6 was a totally unproven urban myth Yes indeed. I believe there is a similar myth about the Dedra with naturally aspired diesel, which appears often in spare parts databases (as like the Thema 1.6) -- Last edit: 2022-06-17 20:54:19
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-17 20:54	Exactly. There are also a few others the Thema 1.6 was said to have been given in use to some Fiat/Lancia managers in 1984/85, but AFAIK is totally unproven and, besides some appearances in part lists, there is no trace of it. Now I'm thinking I mixed up Tempra 1.1 and Regata 1.1 (60) because I can't find nothing concrete about the Tempra nor the page I mentioned, and the taxi anecdote was probably referred to the Regata 60, which was indeed sold in Greece and reported on Wikipedia -- Last edit: 2022-06-17 21:12:05
Sandie ◊ 2022-06-17 21:14	AleX_DJ wrote Wasn't the Octavia SDI regularly sold in UK? Yeah it was, so it wasn't unique to the taxi market, the "Tour" versions were though.
dsl ◊ 2022-06-17 22:05	AleX_DJ wrote Wasn't the Octavia SDI regularly sold in UK? It was listed. But with only 68 bhp, its desirability did not hit buttons for normal car buyers.
AleX_DJ ◊ 2022-06-17 22:52	Bux_48 wrote Now I'm thinking I mixed up Tempra 1.1 and Regata 1.1 (60) because I can't find nothing concrete about the Tempra nor the page I mentioned, and the taxi anecdote was probably referred to the Regata 60, which was indeed sold in Greece and reported on Wikipedia Here it's mentioned: https://sizemywheels.com/pcd/fiat/tempra I believe to have seen something on some Czech site some time ago, but not really sure About the Regata 60, I was sure we found one here on the site but I couldn't find it back for now
Bux_48 ◊ 2022-06-17 23:12	I don't remember any here anyway the Regata 60 was confirmed, I think I even saw one on a spotting page. The Tempra was mentioned also on an Italian forum, but can't find the page for now.. Edit: Link to "www.autopareri.com" Link to "www.autopareri.com" found the forum posts, but the link (on a Polish site) isn't active anymore, so nothing more concrete -- Last edit: 2022-06-17 23:20:30

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