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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2022-08-01 16:01 |
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◊ 2022-08-02 16:50 |
Incredible but true. 15 years of evolution and the MG looks exactly the same in 1934 as in 1949 |
◊ 2022-08-02 16:55 |
If it ain’t bust, don’t fix it. Plus the fact that, at MG from 1939 to 1945, they had other things to do. https://www.mgcc.co.uk/articles/mg-in-the-second-world-war/ -- Last edit: 2022-08-02 17:03:24 |
◊ 2022-08-02 18:12 |
The first reason I buy it. The second no, all the builders had the same situation, and still there are 9 long years to evolve |
◊ 2022-08-02 18:22 |
But Britain was bust when WW2 ended - none of the car firms had bundles of cash for developing new products, and in many cases had to spend their resources on re-equipping factories back to car assembly from the wartime military manufacture. So all they could afford to do was revive slightly refreshed pre-war things. |
◊ 2022-08-02 21:21 |
Try looking at a Ford Model C, then at a 7W Ten, then at an E93A, then at an E493A. 1935 to 1953, no change in the 1172cc flathead 4, then at a 103E Popular, still no change in the design of the engine, gearbox or final drive. 24 years, 1935 to 1959. Then a mild modification to last until 1962 in the 100E. MG PA, 847cc sohc , straight from the 1929 Morris Minor, PB 939cc version of that engine. TA 1936-39, 1292cc ohv from the Wolseley Ten, hydraulic brakes, synchromesh gearbox on 3rd and top, new frame, softer suspension. TB1250cc ohv engine of the Morris Ten, TC still ohv 1250, but introduced in 1945 as a stop gap. The design of the sheet metal was dictated by what the customer wanted, not by some fad of fashion. BTW that Morris Ten engine did 200mph in Goldie Gardner’s special. And then, there’s the Morgan…. -- Last edit: 2022-08-02 21:37:20 |
◊ 2022-08-02 22:10 |
Hmmm. interesting. The only country I know of that kept so many pre-war elements well into the 1950s was Japan, albeit in their case with new bodywork. In any case, I think that if I had lived in 1949 in the UK I would have bought a Jowett Javelin or a Singer SM 1500 (simply because I love its design) |
◊ 2022-08-02 22:52 |
^ They were both very expensive cars, in the case of the Singer because of their inefficiency as a manufacturer, and in the case of Jowett because they were just too small a manufacturer. The Singer was not durable either, and very soon brought the company into the grasping hands of the Rootes Brothers. The Jowett was killed by their inability to assemble cars from the piles of bodies being built by Briggs, who then cut supplies when they were bought by Ford, the early iterations of the flat four were not very strong, and the later iterations of the gearboxes, built in-house were similarly unreliable. When you are paying almost half as much or more than you might for a Wyvern or Consul, you do expect a reliable car. The other thought on what to buy in 1949 is whether you could get a car. Even people like doctors were unable to demand a car off the shelf, and several months delivery delay and no choice of colour was quite normal until the early to mid 50s. The car (Javelin) was expensive, costing £819 at launch. “The Jowett was competing against cars such as the Jaguar 1½ litre (£953), Lanchester LD10 (£927), Riley RM 1½ litre (£863) and the Singer Super 12 (£768).” MGTC (1947) £527 Vauxhall Wyvern was £448, the Velox £550. Info from Wiki. Morris Oxford £547 Austin Devon £467 Hillman Minx. £505 Ford Prefect. £371 Ford V8 Pilot £764 The SM1500 was £799. -- Last edit: 2022-08-03 10:34:12 |
◊ 2022-08-02 23:07 |
while i agree that when you're paying an higher price you expect some reliability out of your car, with the bunch of Land Rover i see around here , paying big money for some unreliable stuff doesn't seems to be a problem... ( of course, today's situation is different than coming out of WW2 .. ) -- Last edit: 2022-08-02 23:20:02 |
◊ 2022-08-03 09:19 |
The question brought out by the above is, “if you had up to £1,000 (say) to spend on a new car in U.K. in 1949, what would you have bought?” Answer: wait until 1951 and buy a Zephyr 6! -- Last edit: 2022-08-03 10:37:25 |