Advertising Last completed movie pages 1952 Rolls-Royce Silver Wraith Hooper Teviot IClass: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: 
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2023-05-04 21:59 |
MGJ London 6/51 to 1/52. 1952 Silver Wraith. I’m looking for the coachbuilder. |
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◊ 2023-05-04 22:37 |
Do we have a more side-on view? |
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◊ 2023-05-04 22:49 |
Only this, if it helps:![[Image: side1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/32612/side1.jpg) ![[Image: side2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/32612/side2.jpg) ![[Image: side3.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/32612/side3.jpg) ![[Image: side4.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/32612/side4.jpg) And this is the only glimpse of its rear (small yet unresized): ![[Image: sidesmall.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/32612/sidesmall.jpg) |
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◊ 2023-05-05 00:10 |
Thanks. Freestone and Webb design no. 3004? Or, possibly Hooper Teviot design no. 8122. Very difficult to see. I think I might just be in favour of the Hooper. -- Last edit: 2023-05-05 00:18:09 |
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◊ 2023-05-05 02:23 |
I don't really know. According to my book, both F&W and Hooper Teviot only had rear-hinged front doors in 48-49, then front-hinged ever after. Which screws up the plate date. My book pics nudge this one towards Hooper Teviot 8122 for a thicker chrome side strip ending closer to the rear arch and with more of a flourish than F&W. |
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◊ 2023-05-05 08:55 |
The top corners of the windscreen suggest Hooper, the F & W body having sharp angles, Hooper being more rounded. I had the same thought about the plate date being later than the design. |
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◊ 2023-05-06 23:16 |
2 votes for Hooper Teviot should be enough, even if we're both cautious. Entering as 1948 for rear-hinged front doors. |
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◊ 2023-05-06 23:32 |
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◊ 2023-05-07 21:05 |
I know little about R-R or Hooper & Co. (or anything else!), but for whatever reason, Courtaulds Ltd., had a Silver Wraith with Touring Limousine coachwork delivered in May 1953, to Teviot 1 design. Body no. 9933, it was built to the same design as body no. 9280, and fitted to chassis no. WVM65. I don't know if the car still survives - one would imagine so - and perhaps irrelevant to this thread, but to me, interesting nonetheless. |
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◊ 2023-05-07 22:28 |
The problem with these is that Hooper bodied 323 Silver Wraiths, plus another 146 Long Wheelbase Silver Wraiths, with bodies of all types. Many of these were not Teviot type, but as far as I can see, there were 50 type 1, about 11 type 2, and 50 type 3. Trying to sort these out, and to separate these from the “might be” like the F and W mentioned, is one way to spend an afternoon. |
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◊ 2023-05-07 22:35 |
As you say, an interesting way to spend time. With regards to the Courtaulds car mentioned above, I suppose we are towards the end of an era when you could ask your preferred coachbuilder for just about anything you desired, within reason! |
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◊ 2023-05-08 09:18 |
As your Daimler knowledge will, I am sure, support, there are two main reasons for the demise of bespoke coachwork. Firstly increasing cost, but this is probably a lesser factor at these stratospheric price levels than the move towards monocoque construction. Royce/Bentley cars showed a distinct drop in bespoke orders from the Cloud/S Series onward, although there was still a chassis available to prop up the body. The Shadow/T Series cars were almost entirely based on standard saloon designs except for the occasional fhc or dhc. Two members of my family were involved in railway coach building, Great Uncle Jack, and Uncle Arthur, who was his apprentice. By the latter years of Arthur’s working life in the sixties, the company had gone, (Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon, Docker connection) and Arthur’s skills as a foreman, running a workshop, were in demand rather than his undoubted skill as a cabinet maker on coach interiors. Arthur’s early death due to asbestosis was caused by the working conditions in this trade, as he said eating your lunch in the workshop, you probably ate as much asbestos as corned beef. -- Last edit: 2023-05-08 09:27:40 |
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