Advertising Last completed movie pages 1997 Van Hool T9 Alizée on Scania L941B Ep. 2.02Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: 
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◊ 2023-09-27 01:09 |
![[Image: vanhool.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/7478/vanhool.jpg) Either it has been modified, or R350LPR belongs to a slightly different Van Hool coach: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdan14025/46920453475/ I can never see a National Express coach without thinking of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_GLSgJ39Dc |
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◊ 2023-09-27 01:12 |
Or the photographer was wrong about the original registration of 604 BRK. |
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◊ 2023-09-27 05:42 |
Van Hool T9 Alizée. |
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◊ 2023-09-27 10:44 |
When I studied English near Brighton I went to London a few times on some of those. When I asked the driver, apparently (and if I recall this correctly) they were built on at least two different chassis; Dennis and Volvo. Would that make any cense? And would that be part of the identification? All that concerns the one nearest to the camera. The next one is a Bova. -- Last edit: 2023-09-27 10:45:13 |
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◊ 2023-09-27 11:39 |
Do modern buses have a chassis these days? Old style buses like Leyland Tigers or Titans were built on chassis that looked like that company’s lorries. Then came underfloor engines located more or less centrally, and finally, rear engined types where there is no chassis, but the rear of the body contains strengthening and mounting elements to take the engine/transmission/drive axle units. Presumably the mountings and dimensions can be tailored to match any offered mechanicals when building the bus. There seems to be less tendency to mention the makers of the oily bits these days. R250LPR is mentioned as a Scania L941B in a Van Hool body. -- Last edit: 2023-09-27 11:48:06 |
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◊ 2023-09-28 08:05 |
If I'm right, for recent ones usually we put the body as main make/model and the engine/base in extra info |
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◊ 2023-09-28 10:27 |
What I meant with a "bus chassis" is like this Link to "d2q01ftr6ua4w.cloudfront.net" , which is how it is delivered to the coach builder. There is also some kind of frame left to make the lot more freight-able, but those tubes are cut loose when arriving at the builder. I realise the term chassis might be a bit dated, but there're a lot of components left if you count out the frame. Perhaps even more than when it used to have a frame. I cannot find a picture how the chassis arrive at the workshop on a trailer. That looks a bit odd as they're very short indeed. Also low entry buses have some kind of frame. -- Last edit: 2023-09-28 10:36:19 |
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◊ 2023-09-28 12:00 |
1. The equipment shown in the linked picture is driven to the body builder. 2. The front part, ie steering, suspension, wheels etc. is split from the back part, and fitted to the front of the body. 3. The rear part, ie engine, axles, transmission, wheels, is fitted to the rear of the body. There is a self contained group of mechanical units at the back, and a similarly self contained steering/suspension/braking unit at the front. The link between the two can be dealt with entirely by electrics, hydraulics and hot air ducts within the body. The body provides the extra length and the strength necessary to create a complete vehicle. Nothing, or at least not much, is superfluous to requirements. -- Last edit: 2023-09-28 12:10:08 |
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◊ 2023-09-29 10:11 |
Yes, my linked picture can be driven to the body builder, on condition it's not very far from the chassis manufacturer. I once visited the coach manufacturer Säffle and saw how incredible short chassis arrived on a trailer from Volvo after a distance of some 120 miles (if travelled from Gothenburg). There were, if I recall this correctly, three chassis on a trailer, as they at that point built low entry buses. |
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◊ 2023-09-29 16:24 |
The pictured “chassis” is most likely trailered to the body supplier, as it does not seem to be fitted with lights or indicators, even though it has a driver’s seat. Whatever, no doubt the bus industry is used to such manoeuvres, as there don’t seem to be many firms throughout history who built everything in one place, Leyland National springs to mind, MB perhaps? |
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◊ 2023-09-29 16:28 |
The Daimler Fleetline measured 3 point perspective drawing by Lawrence Watts; Bus & Coach November 1960 | by mikeyashworth https://www.flickr.com/photos/36844288@N00/45528931012 I suspect that driving this from Coventry to the body works (Alexander at Falkirk?) might have been a wobbly experience! -- Last edit: 2023-09-29 16:38:42 |
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◊ 2023-09-30 11:41 |
I believe I know of one other such bus, the Scania-Vabis BF 76 http://www.tugboatlars.se/ScaniaVabisCFbuss.htm which, I've been told, was built at the Scania-Vabis plant at Södertälje. That mean they built the lot, (chassis, body, frame, axles, engine, (even the foundry for the latter two!), electrics) at the same place. -- Last edit: 2023-09-30 11:42:41 |
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