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1925 Franklin Series 11-A

1925 Franklin Series 11-A in Come Next Spring, Movie, 1956 IMDB

Class: Cars, Coupé — Model origin: US

1925 Franklin Series 11-A

Pos: 00:38:24 [*] Background vehicle 

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humungus SI

2023-09-29 22:38

Looks like the same car at the church later on:
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ManuelB FR

2023-09-29 22:40

1925 Franklin ?

mike962 DE

2023-09-29 22:41

why coupe ?


has solid B-pillar, so 2 door sedan

humungus SI

2023-09-29 22:53

mike962 wrote why coupe ?

Because coupés and 2-door sedans confuse me, especially of this vintage. :/

mike962 DE

2023-09-29 22:55

again solid B-pillar so 2 door sedan like most cars this vintage

Lateef NO

2023-09-29 23:12

What are you on about? Most coupes of this era had B-pillars. Pillarless coupes weren't a thing until the early 50s.

mike962 DE

2023-09-29 23:14

good then make a guide how to differentiate coupes and 2 door sedans of this era

Lateef NO

2023-09-29 23:19

To whom? You?

mike962 DE

2023-09-29 23:19

to general public

why is it so hard for you to post examples ?

Lateef NO

2023-09-29 23:41

Don't need to. You, on the other hand, need to get that chip off your shoulder. In the 20s and 30s there were more often than not, several bodystyles available from each manufacturer. For instance, several manufacturers had a Sport/Business Coupe in their lineup, which is close to what you would call a typical coupe of the 30s/40s era, with a small side window and a thick C-pillar - but you also had a Victoria Coupe, which was essentially a more luxurious coupe with a larger cabin with big windows, essentially a grand tourer of the day, which could be taken for a 2-door sedan as they were pretty roomy and had large glass areas. Sometimes these Victoria Coupes had more upswept beltlines, sheetmetal and whatnot to make them stand out and appear more elegant. But as not all manufacturers had 2-door sedans or Victoria Coupes in their lineup at the same time, you cannot just come barging in and say "its a sedan becoose b-pilar and only sedans hav them". You need to know the make and year (or close to), look up sales literature, and only then you're able to make a formal ID. As this seems to be a fairly large and expensive car of the era, it might just be a Victoria Coupe and not a 2-door sedan (which were usually part of cheaper car manufacturer's lineups) - here's a Franklin coupe of 1927.

mike962 DE

2023-09-29 23:48

alright as you consider more accurate


what about this ? looks coupeish but is listed as sedan

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night cub US

2023-09-29 23:53

mike962 wrote alright as you consider more accurate


what about this ? looks coupeish but is listed as sedan

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It hasn't been ID'd yet. I'm so sorry that none of us are as perfect as you are. You got banned once for bringing you bad attitude to the site before and starting fights. Perhaps you need to check your attitude and stop nit-picking on posters who are just trying their best?

mike962 DE

2023-09-30 00:01

night cub wrote
It hasn't been ID'd yet. I'm so sorry that none of us are as perfect as you are. You got banned once for bringing you bad attitude to the site before and starting fights. Perhaps you need to check your attitude and stop nit-picking on posters who are just trying their best?

don't understand

I knew that solid B-pillar = sedan, not solid = coupe and I just asked for clarifications , where is the bad attitude in that ?

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night cub US

2023-09-30 00:35

You started off by questioning the contributor, then correcting them. It puts the contributor on the defensive, so they responded that they weren't certain, and you again corrected them. It looks like you are attacking the contributing poster.

You were then told that your reasoning is not exactly true (especially since all closed cars of this era have solid B-pillars) and you demanded proof. When you were presented with an answer, you then started to find other inconsistencies that have nothing to do with the question about this car and just drag more posters into the fray.

There are more respectful ways to ask the question about the bodystyle, where it doesn't come off as an attack on the poster who submitted the photo. In both cases, neither car had been positively identified. This car here could be a sedan, but it could also be a coupe. When we get an ID, we can change the class to the right body style.

mike962 DE

2023-09-30 00:42

Ok I am sorry for coming off maybe a bit too harsh , just wanted to correct a potential error (which in the end wasn't here ) not insulting the poster in any way !!

this vintage cars seems a real science to classify them with their many bodystyles

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Lateef NO

2023-09-30 16:52

On a side-note, as late as 1952, Plymouth had two distinct pillared coupe body styles in their lineup, a 3-passenger and a Club Coupe, the latter of which essentially filled the role of a 2-door sedan, despite clearly marketed as a coupe.
1953 saw the elimination of the 2-window coupe and the addition of a 2-door Club sedan, which had a slightly bigger side window with a vent window, as found on their 4-door equivalents.

nzcarnerd NZ

2023-10-01 08:31

From a quick search on the net it appears 1925 was a transition year for Franklin from the old 'horse collar' models to the ones with a faux radiator. The only one I found with three hinges below the waistline is this coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/daveseven/4714599678/

-- Last edit: 2023-10-01 08:31:18

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