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Johnson

Johnson in Z Cars, TV Series, 1962-1978 IMDB Ep. 9.01

Class: Others, Construction & Engineering vehicle — Model origin: UK

Johnson

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Lateef NO

2024-10-12 13:03

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mike962 DE

2024-10-12 15:07

the engine is a Petter AVA

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problem it was an off the shelf part used by multiple producers

-- Last edit: 2024-10-12 17:22:12 (Lateef)

mike962 DE

2024-10-12 20:05

can't figure it

frame looks like Winget but rear and seat don't match
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rear fender look Barford
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but nothing fully matches

if JCB (or somebody else) can't figure it maybe just list by the engine

-- Last edit: 2024-10-12 20:32:48

jcb UK

2024-10-21 00:13

Gut feeling it is a Johnson.

mike962 DE

2024-10-22 21:56

^ if it can't be found maybe we should list it a Petter AVA ?


was searching Johnson but didn't find any like it

jcb UK

2024-10-22 22:14

Why would you call it after its engine :??:
Almost every British dumper had a Lister or Petter engine.


-- Last edit: 2024-10-22 22:14:39

mike962 DE

2024-10-22 22:18

in case it can't be found , there is not much visible of it, the rear fenders look Barford , thicker main frame Winget but it doesn't match with anything fully

this frame suggests Winget but rear doesn't match , neither the seat support
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-- Last edit: 2024-10-22 22:20:20

jcb UK

2024-10-22 23:01

But it would never be found if it had Petter as make because as a make it does not exist.
At least if you put Winget a Winget expert may come across it and say it is not a Winget.
Many British trucks had Gardner engines but I would never call them a Gardner !

Look at the rear view of orange Johnson 3E half way down this page ,same mudguards, rear bumper and tow hook.
( It is not a 3E)
https://www.oilyhands.co.uk/Johnson_Machinery_Survivors.htm

Also the JCM1500RG from 1980 has similarities see

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I think it is an early Johnson 1.5 te dumper .

-- Last edit: 2024-10-22 23:30:24

mike962 DE

2024-10-22 23:37

^ maybe the engine cover was removed ?? or this model didn't have one to start with...

wheel arches match , bumper hook is same position and bucket shape generally matches too

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the rear bumper itself differs a bit, seat structure also differs but those are more minor things

-- Last edit: 2024-10-22 23:47:55

jcb UK

2024-10-23 00:17

If we called it a Johnson who will argue :D

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