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Caterpillar unknown

Caterpillar unknown in Les seins de glace, Movie, 1974 IMDB

Class: Others, Construction & Engineering vehicle — Model origin: US

Caterpillar unknown

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sixcyl FR

2009-05-21 09:49

La niveleuse en arrière plan

mike962 DE

2014-01-10 14:39

it strongly resembles quite an obscure FRENCH producer named RICHIER notice the big thing at the bottom of windhsield

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https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/fr/niveleuse-automotrice/03-18498-16064-2466730/

http://photostp.free.fr/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12695


Quote Ford excavators were sourced from the French company Richier s.a., in which Ford bought a controlling interest in 1972, in 1974 new redesigned models were introduced. Between 1972 and 1976, the excavators were sold as Richier in France and as Ford outside France until 1976 when the Ford name was applied world wide until Ford sold the excavator manufacturing operations to Sambron in 1979 or 1980, but continued to sell excavators under the Ford name afterwards for a while. Under Ford ownership production was at Charleville, but Sambron moved it to L'Horme near St. Etienne, France

http://photostp.free.fr/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2102&start=20


other option some CAT
http://www.machineryzone.fr/occasion/niveleuse/4318051/caterpillar-e.html

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mike962 DE

2014-06-22 12:30

:hello: Lightninboy

does this look US to you or rather european ?

lightninboy US

2014-06-22 20:40

Doesn't the cab have a unique Richier shape to it?

mike962 DE

2014-06-22 21:09

lightninboy wrote Doesn't the cab have a unique Richier shape to it?

that old CAT I linked seems to have same cab

and remember CAT had a factory in France too and some more in Europe

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lightninboy US

2014-06-22 21:54

What other graders were there in France besides Richier and Cat?

Then, doesn't the front end of this grader resemble Cat more than Richier?

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lightninboy US

2014-06-22 22:07

The Cat you showed was made in U.S.A. and showed both E and F on serial number plates.

mike962 DE

2014-06-22 22:19

lightninboy wrote What other graders were there in France besides Richier and Cat?

Then, doesn't the front end of this grader resemble Cat more than Richier?

dunno, you can google a bit

french term for motor grader is niveleuse

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jcb UK

2014-06-23 17:08

This has to be the Richier , the cab roof profile is identical and the strange windscreen shape.

mike962 DE

2014-07-24 22:08

JCB wrote This has to be the Richier , the cab roof profile is identical and the strange windscreen shape.

this cabin seems an aftermarket job it looks identical on that CAT and Richier and in this era many graders where still produced open top


from little what I see of the actual grader the front axle design looks more like CAT , the one I posted has F in it's serial plate which means produced in France

also the shovel mechanism looks like CAT IMO , if you want to see more Richier just google " RICHIER niveleuse"


so you agree that this is rather a CAT ??

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jcb UK

2014-07-25 09:19

My money is still on a Richier ( orange was their standard colour ) but do not know for definite.

mike962 DE

2014-07-25 10:54

are you sure, nearly all the Richier you google are yellow

Richier had a distinct engine panel design but unfortunatly you cannot see the panels in main pic
http://i20.servimg.com/u/f20/12/30/94/16/la_loc13.jpg


focus right at the front here , seems there is a circly part on the middle of front axle on this Richier models
Link to "staticclub.caradisiac.com"


CAT had a bird like jaw design in that area which also looks to be in main pic
http://pics.imcdb.org/13592/untitled.630.jpg

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jcb UK

2014-07-25 13:23

I don't know , the imcd pic is not clear enough , there are similarities to them both . We need a French plant expert :)

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mike962 DE

2014-07-25 15:55

those expert in french construction forum didn't know either

IMO I go and say this should be listed as Caterpillar unknown , remember CAT had at least one factory in France since the late 60/early 70 so that's why many of their products are found inFrnace

mike962 DE

2014-07-25 18:15

JCB wrote I don't know , the imcd pic is not clear enough , there are similarities to them both . We need a French plant expert :)

here JCB


this are the 2 design elements which make me believe that this is a CAT and not Richier, you can google some more Richier if you want

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mike962 DE

2023-07-10 16:28

looking back at it, it smells CAT by the very thin front wheel toe link

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