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1937 Ford Ten Double Entrance Saloon De Luxe [7W] Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2009-11-09 16:05 |
Another taxi, seems of the same type (but with different side number) ![[*]](/res/star.png){kind=small} :![[Image: 203104-snapshot20091106182410.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0ge20/203104-snapshot20091106182410.jpg) -- Last edit: 2018-07-01 18:27:55 |
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◊ 2009-11-09 16:22 |
Ford (UK) Prefect [E93A], 1938+. |
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◊ 2009-11-09 16:25 |
1937-38 Ford Ten ( 10hp) model 7W "Double Entrance Saloon" DeLuxe ( term used for the 4 door saloon , the 2 door being the "Touring Car" ).This was the forerunner of the 1939 and postwar Ford Prefect E 493 A. |
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◊ 2009-11-09 16:37 |
I wondered about that, but we have two others in Polish films, one of which is unmistakeably a Prefect [E93A]. /vehicle_187260-Ford-Prefect-E93A-1939.html /vehicle_189069-Ford-Prefect-E93A-1939.html The [E93A] would be brand new in 1938. The previous [7W] was produced in small numbers in Latvia as the Ford-Vairogs Junior, but I haven't been able to confirm that it was exported to Poland, or that Vairogs later produced the [E93A]. |
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◊ 2009-11-09 17:27 |
This car is most likely a 7W Ten four door saloon. The first E93A version of this car, chassis no. 150198, did not leave the factory until 3rd October 1938, and the car appears to have body coloured wheels in the additional thumbnails. They would have to have been quick off the mark with the film's release for the taxi fleet to have been E93A models, so unless anyone can prove differently we should say 7W. There was a two door touring car version of the 7W with cutaway doors and a full length canvas hood, 1639 were made. Four door cars were "double entrance", two door cars were "single entrance", and Ford England occasionally used the American terms "Tudor" and "Fordor" up to about 1937. -- Last edit: 2009-11-09 17:28:55 |
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◊ 2009-11-09 17:34 |
The car here does not appear to be the same one as in the two other pictures you post.It appears to have black painted artillary wheels ( see left thumbnail) whereas the 1939 Prefect E 93 A pictures you post and my 1939 Prefect E 93 A documents show clear painted artillary wheels . If it were a Prefect released at the London show in the fall of 1938 this would imply that those pictures were filmed very late in 1938 .For those reasons I am more inclined to keep with a 1937-38 Ford Ten 7W.It is easier with the Willys 1938 model in this movie , released in the fall of 1937 as a 1938 model year.It is often a pitty that we do not know the exact filming dates.This could help to clarify many mysteries! |
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◊ 2009-11-09 17:49 |
In the IMDB itsays that the release date of the film in Poland was 30 September 1938. We can therefore say Quod Erat Demonstrandum, must be a 7W. |
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◊ 2009-11-09 21:56 |
![[:dumb]](https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/images/smileys/dumb.gif "[:dumb]") Fair enough. Could it therefore be a Latvian Ford-Vairogs Junior, I wonder? (btw as Michał said, the thumbnail where the wheel was visible isn’t necessarily the same as the main picture.) |
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◊ 2009-11-09 23:33 |
I have not applied the full rigour of logic to my argument and accept that I am in error in saying that it must be a 7W. I think that the statement that it cannot be an E93A is, however, correct. Whatever the Latvian product may have been, and I have no knowledge of any of these vehicles, it must be reasonable to say that it would have been produced from Dagenham ckd kits, as the economics of fabricating all the parts for a small number of cars would not work. (I spent most of my working life in the commercial department of an automotive company) The German factory at Niehl produced a 10hp model called the Eiffel, but the 1937 versions did not look like the 7W, so it is fair to say that if kits were used they were probably in whole or part from Essex. |
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◊ 2009-11-10 17:02 |
Forum of the "Odkrywca" (the discoverer) - http://www.odkrywca-online.com/pokaz_watek.php?id=380480 . The guy found (in Poland) a buried car in the parts (see the pics). After short discussion they realised that it is rather a Ford-Vairogs. However, due to war, I think we still can't be sure, that these were imported by us. It could be a car commandeered (or rather stolen) in Latvia by Soviet army and brought together with it here. Isn't the production number of 332 personal Fords made in Latvia (acc. to Wiki) too small to think about the export? -- Last edit: 2009-11-10 17:15:50 |
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◊ 2009-11-10 17:32 |
It is a question of what is meant by "made". The car in the film is undoubtedly a British designed Ford 10. The cost of providing a set of new tooling to press out 332 bodies and chassis would make the exercise completely uneconomic to do, then you need patterns for the castings and tools for the forgings, plus interior trim and electrics and instruments to be sourced. However ckd (completely knocked down) kits of British parts would pack into a fairly manageable cargo, and if Vairogs could assemble in Latvia and was economically linked to Ford then the project could be possible, especially if Ford was considering it as a pump priming exercise to promote future business. Events over the following years would have killed off the possibilty of any such development happening. I would suggest that the parts shown in the Polish pictures are from a truck, probably a 7V, which could have become confused with 7W over the years. -- Last edit: 2009-11-10 17:39:24 |
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◊ 2009-11-10 19:07 |
It indeed isn't specified what kind of "production" it was. Latvian Wiki seems to have even less informations than the English one. |
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