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1962 Fiat 2300 Autofunebre [114B]

1962 Fiat 2300 Autofunebre [114B] in In nome del popolo italiano, Movie, 1971 IMDB

Class: Cars, Funeral — Model origin: IT

1962 Fiat 2300 Autofunebre [114B]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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electra225 IT

2010-01-10 15:21

Fiat 2300 Familiare

sixcyl FR

2010-01-10 19:31

Then 1962+

DynaMike NL

2010-01-10 19:51

But how to see that it's not a 1800 or 2100? And is Familiare really still used when it is a hearse?

bref FR

2010-01-12 12:09

Carrozzeria Centrale 2300 funebre (1962)

Animatronixx DE

2010-01-12 16:12

Centrale?!? That would look like this and the only similarity I can see is: They're both Fiat 2300 and they're both hearses. Actually, there were presumably more than 20 coachbuilders that made hearse conversions based on this chassis (with most of them being defunct for decades) and many of them are poorly documented or simply not recorded at all. This is the reason why I don't even bother venturing a guess on the coachbuilder from that small picture we see here.

moff

2022-07-25 18:49

@Animatronixx Sorry for hijacking this post, but can you shed some light on this 2100 that I saw a few years ago? Probably by Pilato, since it was outside a workshop half an hour away from their HQ.

[Image: IMG-20170508-104901.jpg] [Image: IMG-20170508-104937.jpg]

I thought about sending you an email, but I figured other people may be interested in it.

Animatronixx DE

2022-08-16 00:47

Thanks for sharing these pictures @moff! Very spectacular sideglass! In more than 30 years of hearsing around I have never seen a Fiat 2x00 with that sort of coachwork. All I can tell is that I don't think Pilato built it. Just like in general when talking about carrozzieri italiani, the market for hearse conversions was (and still is) crowded with loads of small and even smaller coachbuilders and despite this body having a certain Officine Grazia vibe, I believe one of the lesser known others did it.

-- Last edit: 2022-08-16 01:03:43

moff

2022-08-17 16:47

AnimatronixX wrote Thanks for sharing these pictures @moff! Very spectacular sideglass! In more than 30 years of hearsing around I have never seen a Fiat 2x00 with that sort of coachwork. All I can tell is that I don't think Pilato built it. Just like in general when talking about carrozzieri italiani, the market for hearse conversions was (and still is) crowded with loads of small and even smaller coachbuilders and despite this body having a certain Officine Grazia vibe, I believe one of the lesser known others did it.

Thank you for replying. Yeah, from a quick google search I couldn't find a similar one either. All the ones I saw have that "angle" immediately after the door, and the roof is missing that "hump" as well. Plus they're always based on the 2300 rather than this 2100 (Speciale?).
https://www.onoranzepedranzini.com/parco_mezzi/carrofunebre.jpg
Link to "www.misericordiaimpruneta.it"

Here's another hearse that has intrigued me for years, one based on a Lancia Flaminia berlina. I know of that one-off ambulance by Fissore, but I never saw another hearse. Do you know anything about it?
[Image: flamin10.jpg][Image: 1.jpg][Image: 2.jpg]
I didn't take the pictures myself, but I remember seeing it outside of a junkyard. It's been long gone, hopefully it went to the right enthusiast.

edit: I just remembered of yet another Italian oddity for your collection, this time something entirely different: a '59 Impala.
[Image: caroesone.jpg]

source: Link to "catorcibus.blogspot.com"

-- Last edit: 2022-08-17 17:04:42

rjluna2 US

2022-08-17 19:44

moff wrote edit: I just remembered of yet another Italian oddity for your collection, this time something entirely different: a '59 Impala.
[Image: caroesone.jpg]

source: Link to "catorcibus.blogspot.com"

That looks like 1960 Ford full size rear taillight/fin to me :think:

Animatronixx DE

2022-08-17 21:36

moff wrote (...) All the ones I saw have that "angle" immediately after the door, and the roof is missing that "hump" as well. Plus they're always based on the 2300 rather than this 2100 (Speciale?).


The strong B-pillar - which can figuratively seen as a clear border between the coffin and the hearse driver or, if you want, between dead and alive - is a usual feature of funeral vehicles in many parts of the world. Sort of "default setting" when talking about coaches with long sideglass. Everything else, just like above, is rather special. I'm not very good at old Fiats, but the vast majority of Fiat 2x00 autofunebres were/ are 2300.

moff wrote Here's another hearse that has intrigued me for years, one based on a Lancia Flaminia berlina. I know of that one-off ambulance by Fissore, but I never saw another hearse. Do you know anything about it?(...)


I don't know anything about this particular car, but I can tell you that this is a body by Pilato Autotrasformazioni and it does look quite odd with the rather boxy 1970s' bodywork on a 1950s' car (if it's that old - I'm not very good with old Lancias either...), which leads me to the conclusion that a former sedan has been rebodied as a hearse many years, maybe even decades later. That happens every once in a while, but each one is noteworthy, because that mostly brings very spectacular results. Fissore did a few Lancia hearses that I know of, Grazia even advertised the Flavia below:

[Image: grazialanciaflavia.jpg]

rjluna2 wrote That looks like 1960 Ford full size rear taillight/fin to me :think:


It's not Italian either! :p It was bodied in Belgium by Van Dun. We have another contemporary ice cream van hearse by the same coachbuilder on the site and also a later one.

Anyway, thanks for these pictures. :)

moff

2022-08-17 22:33

rjluna2 wrote That looks like 1960 Ford full size rear taillight/fin to me :think:

AnimatronixX wrote It's not Italian either! :p It was bodied in Belgium by Van Dun.


My bad, I'm not that familiar with American cars so I just reported what the blog author said. What's interesting is that the Italian plates dates from 1969, which makes you wonder who would go through the hassle of importing a 9yo gas-guzzling hearse.

AnimatronixX wrote The strong B-pillar - which can figuratively seen as a clear border between the coffin and the hearse driver or, if you want, between dead and alive - is a usual feature of funeral vehicles in many parts of the world. Sort of "default setting" when talking about coaches with long sideglass. Everything else, just like above, is rather special. I'm not very good at old Fiats, but the vast majority of Fiat 2x00 autofunebres were/ are 2300.

I don't know anything about this particular car, but I can tell you that this is a body by Pilato Autotrasformazioni and it does look quite odd with the rather boxy 1970s' bodywork on a 1950s' car (if it's that old - I'm not very good with old Lancias either...), which leads me to the conclusion that a former sedan has been rebodied as a hearse many years, maybe even decades later. That happens every once in a while, but each one is noteworthy, because that mostly brings very spectacular results. Fissore did a few Lancia hearses that I know of, Grazia even advertised the Flavia below:

[Image: grazialanciaflavia.jpg]


Fascinating stuff, thank you for sharing your knowledge.

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