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antp ◊ 2010-06-18 14:57
-- ◊ 2010-06-16 03:40	Chinese army
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 09:32	Beijing-Jeep BJ 212 ?
Jale ◊ 2010-06-16 09:55	I think, that Beijing-Jeep has different grill with less number of stripes.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-16 11:04	It's not a Beijing: /vehicle_137092-Beijing-Jeep-BJ-2020.html But could it be an early Land Cruiser or something customised to look like one?
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 19:31	I think it is customized Austin Gipsy or Land-Rover 109'' Series II. Fake plastic bonnet and grille. Too bad. I hoped to see northcorean car. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 20:06:01
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-16 20:23	If you want to see real North Korean cars, you'll have to look for real North Korean films.
Ingo ◊ 2010-06-16 20:26	something special for 3loader: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q14NdC9E2BE
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-16 20:43	And here's a gallery of all known vehicles made in North Korea. http://picasaweb.google.com/birgit1401/DprkAutomobiles# 3loader, how many copies of Soviet designs can you spot?
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 20:57	Thank you, ingo! Now i got new number 1 in my top 100 Gag Halfrunt, that's awesome! Pure copies is not so much as i expected. But i see strong inspiration of chinese copies of something. Now i realy need to watch some DPRK's movies. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 21:11:12
Ingo ◊ 2010-06-16 21:06	Top 100 of what? Travelling destinations? Or Top 100 of your favourite music? I'm crazy enough, to think about a tourist-trip to North Korea, actually I'm indeed reading all the (very few) travel-guides in German language, I can get. But I'm alone with my idea. Noone wants to come with me. Not even my wife. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 21:07:12
garco ◊ 2010-06-16 21:13	Nice site Gag!
Ingo ◊ 2010-06-16 21:15	3loader wrote Now i realy need to watch some DPRK's movies. Are there some? Resp. some, which were shown outside? Kim Jong Il has a huge collection of movie-tapes, also many of them, where have at IMCDB - but only Western made some, as I've read... Oops, sorry for my question. Sure, there are some movies, made there. With the help of some South Korean people, who have said, that they are volounteery there... P.S. There are some animated movies, made in North Korea - for example "Pocahontas" -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 21:29:32
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 21:17	Top 100 cars, i mean. But traveling into DPRK i think would be fun too. As i know communists, they are not dangerous for foreigners.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-16 21:19	That gallery was put together by a Dutch guy called Erik van Ingen Schenau, who is an expert on the Chinese automotive industry and started collecting information about Chinese cars in the early 1970s. He has written a book - the only book - about North Korean automobiles. http://www.chinesecars.net/index.php?page=4
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-16 21:28	For 3loader and ingo, here's a real North Korean film on YouTube. Link to "www.youtube.com" It's about soldiers on the front line with South Korea, and there's a convoy of GAZ 69s or North Korean clones (Sungri 4.15?).
Ingo ◊ 2010-06-16 21:43	3loader wrote But traveling into DPRK i think would be fun too. As i know communists, they are not dangerous for foreigners. You're right. I made this experience in the pre-1990 DDR: you maybe/surely are the bad class-enemy. But everything is fine, because you are bringing real money with you. For real (so Western) money in every communist country, they have worked their butt off... Very good to see in all COMECON-countries, was the treatment of the German tourists. The brothers-in-arms from the DDR were always the second-class-tourists. The class-enemies from Western Germany were the beloved favourites.
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 21:50	Nice. Looks like early 50's soviet B-movie. I would like to watch something more peacefull. About citylife in North Korea or something. And more cars. Yep, ingo. But money in there is not the same. Theres nothig to buy on it. So many people afraid to make service uncomfortable for foreigners, just coz they scare of their own red bosses. If they didn't respect DDR citizens, you can imagine how they treat a soviet tourists in comecon. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 22:03:25
Ingo ◊ 2010-06-16 22:25	3loader wrote Yep, ingo. But money in there is not the same. Theres nothig to buy on it. So many people afraid to make service uncomfortable for foreigners, just coz they scare of their own red bosses. Eeeh, sorry, this is not really correct - a Western tourist, paying his trip with Western money, will get a full service at hotels, restaurants and some special shops. Sometimes they have openend -complete hotels- just for this single tourists (and his local guides/guards). Very informative, to read travel-stories about that country. Btw: haven't these special shops, where you only could pay with Western money -to get all kind of Western products- existed in the Soviet Union, too? Like the DDR-"Intershop" ? @rapid130, @Weasel: what was the name of these shops in Poland, also PEWEX?
chris40 ◊ 2010-06-16 22:34	I'm quite taken with 3loader's idea of a customised 111" Austin Gipsy; check out the windscreen and the rear wheel-arch. I'm only surprised they found two in 1988. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 22:35:22
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 22:41	Yes, ingo. I know about those shops. In USSR they called Beryozka. 2 chris40 front lights is similar Austin Gipsy too IMHO. Not two, there is 3. -- Last edit: 2010-06-16 22:43:55
chris40 ◊ 2010-06-16 22:48	@3loader: yes, you're right about the headlights, they have a Lucas look. I haven't seen the film but I can only see one 90" and one 111" at any one time
3loader ◊ 2010-06-16 23:00	@chris40 I just rewatch that scene there is 3. One by one: Opened, covered and longbase.
130rapid ◊ 2010-06-17 01:08	ingo wrote Btw: haven't these special shops, where you only could pay with Western money -to get all kind of Western products- existed in the Soviet Union, too? Like the DDR-"Intershop" ? @rapid130, @Weasel: what was the name of these shops in Poland, also PEWEX? Yup, PEWEX and Baltona. Precisely they accepted US-dollars, or West German marks (Baltona) from tourists or state western money's equivalent named "Bon Towarowy Pekao" from Poles. It was strange kind of monetary coupons emited by main state bank. When Poles who worked abroad & earned in western money, came to Poland at least, the state changed their dollars/marks/pounds to this coupons by special law. The keeping your own, hardly & honestly earned dollars under cushion was illegal! You could go to jail! In 80s came some liberalisation of regulations and Polish people could have western money without fear. 2-cents version of "Bon Towarowy Pekao": Link to "www.zgapa.pl" -- Last edit: 2010-06-17 01:16:41
Weasel1984 ◊ 2010-06-17 11:38	I can only add, that was illegal more officially, unnoficially they care about it less (after the 60's especially). Main reason was, that this "illegal" trade of dollars etc. was controled mainly by the members of the nomenklatura or/and UB agents etc. - they didn't want to loose these profits. It was good starting point for the future mafia (and back then perhaps also not bad source of informations). Since 1970's it was possible to have some legal dollar accounts in the bank. -- Last edit: 2010-06-17 12:02:51
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2010-06-17 15:36	Anyway, I'm surprised that the film makers bothered to disguise these since no-one in the audience would recognise an Austin Gipsy anyway, and they thought that Macau streets with Chinese shop signs in plain view would be an adequate stand-in for Seoul.
dsl ◊ 2015-11-08 14:39	Proper door handles so 1960 Mk2 or later

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