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maxman ◊ 2011-07-01 03:02	The police state it was a De Soto that Dillinger had arranged to be delivered.
jpts ◊ 2016-02-16 11:58	This scene was based on the shootout between the Dillinger gang members, John Dillinger and Homer Van Meter and agents of the FBI St. Paul Branch, Rufus Coulter, and Rusty Nalls and St. Paul Police Department detective, Henry Cummings at the Lincoln Court Apartments in St. Paul, Minnesota on the morning on the 31st March 1934. In reality, Dillinger and Frechette had moved into Apartment 303 at the Lincoln Court Apartments on the 20th March 1934 under the aliases, Mr. and Mrs. Carl T. Hellman. In a statement given by the owner and landlady of the Lincoln Court, Daisy Coffey at Frechette's trial, Coffey stated when Dillinger and Frechette were staying in Apartment 303, Coffey would spend her evenings furnishing Apartment 310 where she had a clear view of the inside of Apartment 303 (as it was located across the courtyard from 310) and could see the activity taking place. Seeing as suspicious, on the 30th March 1934, Coffey filed a report with the FBI St. Paul Branch and mention about Dillinger's tan Hudson Sedan parked in the apartment building's garage. The following morning on the 31st March, Coulter and Nalls along with Cummings travelled to the Lincoln Court where Coulter and Cummings went into the Building and went to 303 where Frechette told them wait as she wasn't properly dressed, while waiting, Coulter went down to the basement apartment of the building's caretakers, Louis Meidlinger and his wife, Margaret and asked them for the use of their phone to contact the Bureau before rejoining with Cummings. As they waited for Frechette, Van Meter appeared in the hallway and when he was asked for details, Van Meter opened fire on Coulter and Cummings, missing both of them before attempting to flee in his green Ford coupe. Van Meter got into the Ford and attempted to flee, but Nalls pointed Van Meter's Ford out to Coulter who then chased the Ford and returned fire, hitting the left rear tyre, as Coulter chased the Ford, Nalls retreated to a local pharmacy located on a street corner and attempted to contact the local police department and the FBI St. Paul Branch office, but was unable to as both lines were busy. Back at the apartment, Dillinger who was told by Frechette that the police had turned up, heard Van Meter firing shots and opened fire with a Thompson Submachine gun through the door, sending Cummings diving for cover, Cummings then returned fire with five shots, hitting Dillinger once in the leg. After Cummings retreated, Dillinger and Frechette then fled down the stairs and exited through a back door into the garage and got into the Hudson and fled from the scene. With his Ford disabled, Van Meter managed to escape by jumping in the back of a passing coal truck. After the shootout, Dillinger and Frechette travelled to Minneapolis where they met up with another Dillinger gang member, Harold "Eddie" Green at Green's apartment who then contacted his associate and doctor, Clayton E. May who drove Dillinger in May's vehicle with Frechette, Green and his wife, Beth following behind May's vehicle in Green's vehicle to the apartment of May's nurse, Augusta Salt where May and Salt took the bullet out of Dillinger's leg. In the Lincoln Court apartments, agents found a phone number that was traced to one of Green's hideouts in St. Paul. Green was also a known associate of gang members, Fred Barker and Alvin "Creepy" Karpis whose gang, the Barker-Karpis gang (which included Fred's brother, Arthur "Doc" Barker and Fred and Doc's mother, Kate "Ma" Barker) were known for committing several bank robberies and kidnappings from 1931 to 1935. Three days after the Lincoln Courts Shootout, on the 3rd April 1934, Green and his wife arrived at the safehouse and was walking toward the safehouse when they were surrounded by agents armed with Thompson Submachine guns and shot Green multiple times, hitting him in the head and shoulder. Green later died of his wounds in hospital a week later, on the 10th April 1934. Green's shooting and his death resulted in the FBI coming under criticism, stating that the FBI shot and killed an unarmed suspect, while the FBI stated that Green posed a threat as the FBI claimed that Green had a "threatening attitude, accompanied by menacing gestures". The day before his death, on the 2nd April 1934, Green visited Dillinger at Dr. May's, Dillinger spent five days recovering from his wound before leaving Dr. May's on the 4th April 1934. At her trial, Frechette stated that Dillinger promised to pay Dr. May $500 for treating him but had failed to do so. -- Last edit: 2023-04-29 11:14:57
35Desoto ◊ 2024-10-22 03:53	This Desoto was my Father's car which is now owned by my son and me. The interesting fact about this is that it is a 1935 Desoto SG Airflow Coupe. They did make the car in 1934, and the grill is slighly different along with some other minor differences. The director loved the car and wanted to use it. To keep with the integrity of the movie, "The Desoto" was shot in the evening and from the rear, so you could not make out the differences. We have it on display at the Wisconsin Auto Museum in Hartford, WI. https://wisconsinautomuseum.com/ -- Last edit: 2024-10-22 03:55:09

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◊ 2011-07-01 03:02

The police state it was a De Soto that Dillinger had arranged to be delivered.

◊ 2016-02-16 11:58

This scene was based on the shootout between the Dillinger gang members, John Dillinger and Homer Van Meter and agents of the FBI St. Paul Branch, Rufus Coulter, and Rusty Nalls and St. Paul Police Department detective, Henry Cummings at the Lincoln Court Apartments in St. Paul, Minnesota on the morning on the 31st March 1934.

In reality, Dillinger and Frechette had moved into Apartment 303 at the Lincoln Court Apartments on the 20th March 1934 under the aliases, Mr. and Mrs. Carl T. Hellman.

In a statement given by the owner and landlady of the Lincoln Court, Daisy Coffey at Frechette's trial, Coffey stated when Dillinger and Frechette were staying in Apartment 303, Coffey would spend her evenings furnishing Apartment 310 where she had a clear view of the inside of Apartment 303 (as it was located across the courtyard from 310) and could see the activity taking place.

Seeing as suspicious, on the 30th March 1934, Coffey filed a report with the FBI St. Paul Branch and mention about Dillinger's tan Hudson Sedan parked in the apartment building's garage.

The following morning on the 31st March, Coulter and Nalls along with Cummings travelled to the Lincoln Court where Coulter and Cummings went into the Building and went to 303 where Frechette told them wait as she wasn't properly dressed, while waiting, Coulter went down to the basement apartment of the building's caretakers, Louis Meidlinger and his wife, Margaret and asked them for the use of their phone to contact the Bureau before rejoining with Cummings.

As they waited for Frechette, Van Meter appeared in the hallway and when he was asked for details, Van Meter opened fire on Coulter and Cummings, missing both of them before attempting to flee in his green Ford coupe.

Van Meter got into the Ford and attempted to flee, but Nalls pointed Van Meter's Ford out to Coulter who then chased the Ford and returned fire, hitting the left rear tyre, as Coulter chased the Ford, Nalls retreated to a local pharmacy located on a street corner and attempted to contact the local police department and the FBI St. Paul Branch office, but was unable to as both lines were busy.

Back at the apartment, Dillinger who was told by Frechette that the police had turned up, heard Van Meter firing shots and opened fire with a Thompson Submachine gun through the door, sending Cummings diving for cover, Cummings then returned fire with five shots, hitting Dillinger once in the leg.

After Cummings retreated, Dillinger and Frechette then fled down the stairs and exited through a back door into the garage and got into the Hudson and fled from the scene.

With his Ford disabled, Van Meter managed to escape by jumping in the back of a passing coal truck.

After the shootout, Dillinger and Frechette travelled to Minneapolis where they met up with another Dillinger gang member, Harold "Eddie" Green at Green's apartment who then contacted his associate and doctor, Clayton E. May who drove Dillinger in May's vehicle with Frechette, Green and his wife, Beth following behind May's vehicle in Green's vehicle to the apartment of May's nurse, Augusta Salt where May and Salt took the bullet out of Dillinger's leg.

In the Lincoln Court apartments, agents found a phone number that was traced to one of Green's hideouts in St. Paul.

Green was also a known associate of gang members, Fred Barker and Alvin "Creepy" Karpis whose gang, the Barker-Karpis gang (which included Fred's brother, Arthur "Doc" Barker and Fred and Doc's mother, Kate "Ma" Barker) were known for committing several bank robberies and kidnappings from 1931 to 1935.

Three days after the Lincoln Courts Shootout, on the 3rd April 1934, Green and his wife arrived at the safehouse and was walking toward the safehouse when they were surrounded by agents armed with Thompson Submachine guns and shot Green multiple times, hitting him in the head and shoulder.

Green later died of his wounds in hospital a week later, on the 10th April 1934.

Green's shooting and his death resulted in the FBI coming under criticism, stating that the FBI shot and killed an unarmed suspect, while the FBI stated that Green posed a threat as the FBI claimed that Green had a "threatening attitude, accompanied by menacing gestures".

The day before his death, on the 2nd April 1934, Green visited Dillinger at Dr. May's, Dillinger spent five days recovering from his wound before leaving Dr. May's on the 4th April 1934.

At her trial, Frechette stated that Dillinger promised to pay Dr. May $500 for treating him but had failed to do so.

-- Last edit: 2023-04-29 11:14:57

35Desoto

◊ 2024-10-22 03:53

This Desoto was my Father's car which is now owned by my son and me. The interesting fact about this is that it is a 1935 Desoto SG Airflow Coupe. They did make the car in 1934, and the grill is slighly different along with some other minor differences. The director loved the car and wanted to use it. To keep with the integrity of the movie, "The Desoto" was shot in the evening and from the rear, so you could not make out the differences. We have it on display at the Wisconsin Auto Museum in Hartford, WI. https://wisconsinautomuseum.com/

-- Last edit: 2024-10-22 03:55:09

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