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Raul1983 ◊ 2006-07-19 13:41	900th make !!!
pilou ◊ 2006-07-19 13:59	Dual Ghia 1956.These cars have often been filed as Chrysler Dual Ghias.However they were built by Ghia in Italy on a shortened Dodge frame of 115 inches and they used a 260 hp Dodge engine ,so they were in fact more Dodge than Chrysler.Encyclopedias list Dual Ghia as a make on its own referring to Chrysler group for details.
Raul1983 ◊ 2006-07-19 14:02	Yes, Dual Ghia is usually listed as a make of it's own. If I remember correctly only 26 cars were made. I saw one of them few weeks ago and it's a beautiful car -- Last edit: 2006-07-19 14:02:47
jplemoine ◊ 2006-07-19 14:11	Raul1983 wrote Yes, Dual Ghia is usually listed as a make of it's own. If I remember correctly only 26 cars were made. I saw one of them few weeks ago and it's a beautiful car Remarque: plus on la regarde, plus on se dit qu'il valait mieux que la lignée s'arrête là...
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 14:25	Il y en a de plus jolies dans la lignée... Celle ci est de 1963 me semble t-il, une L6.4 reproduite par Corgy-Toys Je suis surpris par la marque Dual-Ghia et non Chrysler, car elles sont badgées Chrysler me semble t-il
Silverstone ◊ 2006-07-19 15:07	I had a toy of one of these! awesome car
Junkman ◊ 2006-07-19 15:28	Pilou is correct on all accounts, it is a Dual Ghia, not a Ghia L6.4. Eugene Casaroll formed Dual Motors in Detroit, Michigan to build an exclusive car based on the design of an earlier showcar of Chrysler named 'Firearrow' (designed by Virgil Exner). The bodies were built by Ghia in Italy, then shipped to Dual in Detroit where the Dodge drivetrain was installed and the interiors fitted. It is thus an American car and over an eight-year period 125 were built. The Ghia L6.4 kind of superseded it after Dual Motors ceased to exist in the early Sixties. It was entirely built by Ghia with Chrysler drivetrain components shipped from America, and is thus an Italian car, that, apart from the same coachmaker and drivetrain supplier, had nothing else in common with the Dual Ghia. Only the Ghia L6.4 was available in model form, the afore mentioned Corgi diecast (usually in blue metallic) and a surprisingly common and accurate 1/24 scale plastic toy made in Hong Kong. Unfortunately, the beautiful Dual Ghias were never rendered as models.
pilou ◊ 2006-07-19 15:42	Dual- Ghias were in fact conceived and made by Dual Motors a haulage Company of Detroit. They were inspired by Dodge's experimental Firearrow prototype of 1953 and were available as convertibles or with a fiberglass hardtop as on this one .As idicated , they used a shortened Dodge chassis,the 5162 cc Dodge D-500 engine and a bodywork made in Italy by Ghia. Dual- Ghias were phased out in 1958 because it became apparent to Dual Motors that the high price ( $7646) and the rising handcraft production costs were not longer sustainable. 104 production models and 13 prototypes were built during its 3 year production run between 1955 and 1958.The Damman , Georgano and Burgess Wise encyclopedias list Dual-Ghia as a make on its own , referring to Chrysler for technical details.
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 15:58	My intention was not to become the Chrysler+Dual-Ghia specialist the world is waiting for, but just to try to get more details...as I was seeing a L6.4, which is not impossible (1964 film). Anyone got a picture of a L6.4?
Bebert ◊ 2006-07-19 18:10	Oui, en voilà une: http://www.hohpe.com/Gregor/Events/Concorso2002/ghia.jpg
sixcyl ◊ 2006-07-19 18:22	Too "baroque style" for me this car, I don't like so much
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 18:35	Vla t'y pas qui z'y ont collés des phares d'Ami 6 maintenant! Thanks to Bebert, I found a new source to get Citroën Ami6 lights... Found these picture from Ghia http://www.ghia.com/ghia/ Looks very close to the one in the film these L6.4...
sixcyl ◊ 2006-07-19 18:52	bref wrote Vla t'y pas qui z'y ont collés des phares d'Ami 6 maintenant! Thanks to Bebert, I found a new source to get Citroën Ami6 lights... :lol: ... le kitch ne connait pas de frontières
jplemoine ◊ 2006-07-19 19:29	Bebert wrote Oui, en voilà une: http://www.hohpe.com/Gregor/Events/Concorso2002/ghia.jpg Et elle est encore plus laide que l'autre...
Raul1983 ◊ 2006-07-19 20:06	This is the Dual Ghia I talked about. Took this picture this summer. It's the only one in Europe.
Silverstone ◊ 2006-07-19 20:46	Wow, thats great, shame someone was standing in the way! -- Last edit: 2006-07-19 21:00:23 (Raul1983)
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 20:50	Sorry to be blond, but what's the difference between this 1956 Dual Ghia and the 1962 Ghia L6.4 on the Ghia site?
antp ◊ 2006-07-19 21:36	jplemoine wrote Et elle est encore plus laide que l'autre... Je la trouve pas mal...
sixcyl ◊ 2006-07-19 22:30	...mais Antoine aime bien les phares d'Ami 6
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 22:50	Mais c'est que l'Ami6 elle n'est pas prétentieuse elle!!! Bon, j'ai toujours pas ma réponse. Je continue a penser qu'il s'agit d'une Ghia L6.4 de 62/63 et non d'un Dual Ghia de 56. Quitte à passer pour un incompétent, qu'on me dise pourquoi...
jplemoine ◊ 2006-07-19 22:56	A choisir entre la Ghia (ou Dual-Ghia) et l'Ami6, y a pas photo... Je préfère l'Ami6... Et puis pourquoi "incompétent"? Tu nous as déjà prouvé le contraire maintes fois... Pas de gros mots ici, ou alors réserve-les pour "certains qu'on nomme grands", qui sont persuadés, à tort, de ne pas l'être... Principe de Peters appliqué dans toute sa folie meurtrière... C'était mon quart d'heure râleur et ronchon. Non mais!
bref ◊ 2006-07-19 23:01	Le plus terrible, c'est que je risque de rêver à ces Chrysler toute la nuit...
Raul1983 ◊ 2006-07-24 10:50	Couple of corrections to my post (see the picture I posted). There are two Ghia's (L 6,4) of this type in Europe. In total 26 Ghia's were made including one prototype for Frank Sinatra. Earlier 102 Dual-Ghia's had been made. So that makes a total Dual-Ghia;Ghia production to 128 cars.
bref ◊ 2006-07-24 10:59	I'm coming back with no intention to make a post à la Ford Scorpio Ultima, but you are talking about a Ghia L6.4, and I was convinced it was one. Some of us said it is a Dual Ghia, and then the car was registered as a Dual Ghia. Can we have a gentlemanly discussion on that?
antp ◊ 2006-07-24 11:17	bref wrote I'm coming back with no intention to make a post à la Ford Scorpio Ultima, [...] That's not a problem if there are lots of messages on this page, as long as it is not off topic but related to the car I can't help on this subject, unfortunately, as for me I know "ghia" only through the VW Typ 14 and some trim levels of "recent" Ford models
Raul1983 ◊ 2006-07-24 11:33	bref wrote I'm coming back with no intention to make a post à la Ford Scorpio Ultima, but you are talking about a Ghia L6.4, and I was convinced it was one. Some of us said it is a Dual Ghia, and then the car was registered as a Dual Ghia. Can we have a gentlemanly discussion on that? The car on the movie is a Dual-Ghia. The picture I posted in the comments section is a later model; Ghia L6.4
bref ◊ 2006-07-24 11:55	Ghia L6.4 is this one. You version is very close except the "Ami6" front light (Cibié light more seriously) http://www.motorcities.com/photo/view/00JGB554757923B.jpeg/0/ And the closest Dual Ghia I found is this one http://concours.smugmug.com/keyword/dual+ghia I'm not a specialist, but when I compare, the film's car is closer to L6.4.
Kustom Komet ◊ 2010-08-06 08:45	I'm going to agree with the L6.4, this cars' styling is very different from a 1956-1957 Dual Ghia, it looks like a '61-'64 Ghia L6.4 like the Sinatra Ghia. -KK
vilero ◊ 2010-10-01 11:07	-- Last edit: 2010-10-23 20:52:54
electra225 ◊ 2021-05-21 22:24	This was called just Ghia 6L I think. The name Dual-HGhia was adopted for the previously built convertible (like the one driven by Dean Martin in "Kiss Me Stupid").

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