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◊ 2011-08-18 02:11 |
Surprised that a local Renault has an elf advert on the window sticker - did elf operate in Argentina? |
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◊ 2011-08-18 02:28 |
Did they ever trade in the UK? I don't remember seeing many Elf stations in the UK but all Renaults had the sticker. |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-08-18 02:31 |
For sure yes! my uncle had a 1992 R-9 with the same decal. And this is the cover of the user manual (1992). See in the thumb: ![[Image: img301w.4986.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is832/img301w.4986.jpg) EDIT: Elf in Argentina Link to "www.elf.com.ar" -- Last edit: 2011-08-18 02:36:21 |
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◊ 2011-08-18 03:00 |
elf had UK petrol stations in UK - I can remember one in Birmingham about 1980 which my Dad always used because it was cheaper than any others. They also owned the Flotta oil refinery in Orkney in the 1990s. |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-08-18 03:16 |
"Cuenta con una planta de blending en la localidad de La Tablada, Buenos Aires, certificada con las normas ISO 9002. La empresa produce, comercializa y distribuye lubricantes en todo el país desde 1986. Here none had/have petrol stations, but according the text: "It has a blending plant in the town of La Tablada, Buenos Aires, certified with ISO 9002. The company produces, markets and distributes lubricants in the country since 1986". http://www.lanacion.com.ar/487691-anticipo-el-ultimo-lubricante-de-elf -- Last edit: 2011-08-18 03:16:32 |
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◊ 2011-08-18 04:44 |
I suppose expecting elf to be only active in France is about as pointless as thinking BP is British. |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-08-18 06:03 |
Probably... or in the same case, YPF (argentinian), but no (purchased by Repsol). |
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◊ 2011-08-18 12:48 |
In Germany there was a big corruption scandal in the early 90ies, where ELF Aquitaine, was deeply involved ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuna-Aff%C3%A4re ) I was about the political powered purpose (especially of the messieurs Mitterand and Kohl), that the formerly DDR-owned petrol-company MINOL with the refinery Leunawerke shall be taken over by ELF Aquitaine. A lot of dirty money flowed, but at least nothing could be determined afterwards  When the Kohl-adminsitration lost the elections in 1998, all documents were destroyed. So intensively, that there was even an own nickname for that, "Bundeslöschtage" (= "Federal Deleting Days"). Honni soit qui mal y pense... A little piece of that corruption-included intrigues I'm using every day .gif ":)") If you have closer look to the rest area (the "P") on the Autobahn A31: Link to "maps.google.de" you see two little yellow lines on the outer side. It's a mini-exit. You can enter the A31 in direction South to the Ruhr Area and you can leave it coming from there. Though it's in regular use, it's not signposted, neither on the A31, nor on the country road above. It was built back in the early 90ies specially for this lady, who was deeply involved in the ELF-Aquitaine-scandal: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnes_H%C3%BCrland-B%C3%BCning She had been a state secretary in the Kohl-administration. |
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◊ 2011-08-18 13:15 |
Nice story but - if I've understood it correctly - it is perfectly sensible for rest areas to have back-door access with ordinary roads for all sorts of mundane reasons - maintenance crews, cleaners, dustbin lorries to empty the litter bins, diversion options if motorway is blocked by accidents/snow, snow plough and gritter lorry access etc. All UK motorway service stations have the same, with the additional purpose of letting suppliers and local employees in the shops/cafes/petrol stations reach the site easily - OK so your rest area does not have the same infrastructure but the same issues apply - just makes things easier for everyone. |
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◊ 2011-08-18 15:49 |
@dsl: it's not a real rest station with restaurant ans gas station, it's just a parking with an unpiloted toilet. And: you cannot reach the rest area via that exit-lanes. Sure, the big stations with service personnel indeed have these accesses - but in most cases they are closed for other people than the stuff, road maintenance-, police- and ambulance-vehicles As it was, where I live between 1994 and 2005: Link to "maps.google.de" The little appendix of "Römerstraße" is just 20 meters long, it was the easiest access to the A1 (and a perfect exit, when the trffic was stuck, as often before) - but the use was not legal. If there was thick traffic, often the cops have lurked hidden for "civilians", who have used this way. For making money. When I drove there, over the hill of the noise barrier-construction, always very slow and with the hand on the gearshift - for escaping backwards, if the pigs were waiting there.There were other people, who doesn't believe, the story of this "corruption-exit" (my personal term for it), but it is the truth. Everyone around here knows it... |
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◊ 2011-08-18 16:26 |
A propos rest areas: last weekend, when we had been nearby Berlin, I've spotted on the A10, the Autobahnring Berlin, a typical East German early-90ies relict: http://www.verkaufssysteme.de/design/images/gebrauchtwagen/CIMG2074.jpg (but is rougher condition). Normally you don't see them on autobahn-reast-areas, except the last survivors from the wild times around the German unification. In Britain you see more of them, especially really old clunkers, converted camping-trailers or ice-cream-vans (and in Belgium, too, the legendary http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand:Fritkot.jpg ). So I remember from Newcastle northbound, on the A167 or A696, that there was an old converted Bedford ice-cream-van in ver poor condition - but still alive with this usage |
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