Advertising 1971 Saurer SK-105 KürassierClass: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: 
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Vehicle used a lot by a main character or for a long time
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◊ 2006-07-25 00:18 |
Je pense que c'est un AMX 10 français maquillé "Afrika Korps", mais je peux me tromper.. En tous cas **** ... c'est rare d'avoir un tank en "star automobile" ![[Image: amx10bnj1.647.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is127/amx10bnj1.647.jpg) |
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◊ 2006-07-25 21:21 |
Even though some details still annoy me, I am sure it is an AMX-13/90 Modèle 52. The AMX-13 was designed by the Atelier de Construction d'Issy-les-Moulineaux in 1946, first prototype built in 1948. From 1952 it was produced at the Atelier de Construction Roanne (ARE) and in 1964 the production was moved to Creusot-Loire. The AMX-13/90 is an 1966 upgrade of the 1952 version. the 75 mm gun was replaced by a 90 mm gun. The thing which is still a bit of a mystery is the idler wheel. The chassis version 2E had three support rollers, as we see here, but the idler wheel is too far back, for my liking. There was a prototype with an improved suspension by Krauss-Maffei. I have no photos of this version, so it is just guesswork. The prototype was called AMX-13 GTI. -- Last edit: 2006-07-25 21:23:25 |
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◊ 2006-07-26 13:51 |
What a knowledge! ... Is the make ARE? when the producing factory was Atelier de Construction de Roanne (ACR in abreviation)?... Could the version AMX13/90 dated 1966 then, and production maker under Creusot-Loire? |
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◊ 2006-07-26 15:39 |
Thanks! .gif ":)") It is just the art of finding information.It is a bit strange, but said to be correct. The way I read it, it is Atelier de construction de RoannE. Same for AMX: Atelier de construction d'issy-les-MoulineauX. I will look for a confirmation. Only the gun was made and installed in 1966, the rest of the tank was "second hand". .gif ";)") It is quite normal to upgrade tanks during their life time. Usually the only thing that stays is the hull, everything else, like engine, gearbox, running gear, suspension, communication equipment, turret, gun, and add on armour, may be exchanged for better equipment during the service time, which often lasts 30 to 40 years. The upgrades are often done by ordnance teams of the army.Creusot-Loire, a private company, produced new tanks from 1964 on. Most went into export, as the AMX-13 was a 'top seller' with almost 8000 being built between 1952 and 1985. They took over as ARE, a government owned company, started to build the AMX-30. |
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◊ 2006-07-27 08:27 |
Thank's for the explanations, I see ARE is actually the make... I know the Roanne (and St-Chamond, St-Etienne) plant, where I had several business appointments when I was working in Lyon area. It was under the GIAT (Groupement des Industries de l'Armée de Terre) name at this moment. |
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◊ 2007-01-16 03:30 |
Kurassier autrichien et pas AMX13 |
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◊ 2011-06-19 12:01 |
This definitely isn't AMX-13, but Austrian Steyr-Daimler-Puch SK-105 Kurassier, with the same turret! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SK-105_K%C3%BCrassier ) When I first watched this movie several years ago I was convinced, that it was AMX-13 as well. |
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◊ 2011-06-19 12:24 |
The film was shot in Tunisia (see credits on the IMDB), and Wikipedia says the Tunisian army uses the Kurassier. |
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