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AM General unknown [G742]

AM General unknown [G742] in Creepies, Movie, 2003 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Tow-truck — Model origin: US

AM General unknown [G742]

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MoparFan LT

◊ 2012-11-08 01:42

 M35 Wrecker

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 00:31
MoparFan wrote M35 Wrecker

:hello:

G-MANN

and should be moved to tow truck category

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 00:31:43

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 00:43

 Not M-35. Could one of a few models such as M-543 or M-816.

http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m39.php

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 00:52
G-MANN wrote Not M-35. Could one of a few models such as M-543 or M-816.

http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m39.php

well a least you can name it AM General unkwnon

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:06

 But that's the thing, I don't think we can tell for sure it was made in the 1975+ AM General era and not before when it could have been made by Reo, Kaiser Jeep or even others.

Here http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m35.php it says:

Quote The M35, and its body type variants and improvements, were eventually manufactured by ten different companies through the late 1980s


And on this page http://olive-drab.com/od_mvg_www_deuce_m39.php it says:

Quote Production of the M-39 series of five ton trucks began in 1951, in a rush to meet requirements for the Korean War. By 1953 the trucks had been standardized and the early production by International Harvester, Diamond T, and Mack was replaced by much larger contracts with IH and Kaiser Jeep.


So I think for many of the ones listed on this it's virtually impossible to know exactly which manufacturer made them.

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 01:08:26

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 01:10
G-MANN wrote



So I think for many of the ones listed on this it's virtually impossible to know exactly which manufacturer made them.

then we take a guess and say AM General or REO

there are worse cases

in WW2 german tanks like the Panzer 2 and Panzer 3 were made by up to 7-8 companies at the same time :lol:

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:15

 That's it, we can only guess or name them by default. These weren't made for the commercial market so branding/badging probably didn't matter one bit, they all followed the same blueprint. I think the only place it says who manufactured it is on a plate like this http://olive-drab.com/images/id_m35a2_dataplate_2_petit_700.jpg attached somewhere inside.

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 01:16:43

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:26

 See this: Link to "forum.imcdb.org"

For a chassis code do you think we should use M-44 or G-742?

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 01:26
G-MANN wrote That's it, we can only guess or name them by default. These weren't made for the commercial market so branding/badging probably didn't matter one bit, they all followed the same blueprint. I think the only place it says who manufactured it is on a plate like this http://olive-drab.com/images/id_m35a2_dataplate_2_petit_700.jpg attached somewhere inside.

indeed


another example, in nazi Germany they created the so called "Einheitsdiesel" truck for army

see manufacturer list , if you think M-35 is complicated this should pul your hares out if you try to figure producer :p
Link to "www.kfzderwehrmacht.de"

- Büssing-NAG
- Daimler-Benz
- FAUN
- VOMAG
- Henschel
- Krupp
- Magirus
- MAN
- Borgward

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 01:28:11

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:28
mike962 wrote well a least you can name it AM General unkwnon


OK, I'll do this for now.

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 01:29
G-MANN wrote See this: Link to "forum.imcdb.org"

For a chassis code do you think we should use M-44 or G-742?

IMO G 742 because adding M-44 to trucks already listed as M-35 or M-XX makes more confusion IMO

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 01:29:54

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:35

 ^^^ But at least with German WWII tanks they were only made for a relatively short period. The M-35 series was made nearly 40 years, and halfway through they switched to AM General. The difficulty is deciding when to say one's more likely to be from the AM General era (but then how do we know an M-35 used in a 2000-ish movie wasn't over 25 years old?)

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:38
mike962 wrote IMO G 742 because adding M-44 to trucks already listed as M-35 or M-XX makes more confusion IMO


It's probably better if you also say this on that forum thread, antp is more likely to see it there.

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 01:40
G-MANN wrote ^^^ But at least with German WWII tanks they were only made for a relatively short period. The M-35 series was made nearly 40 years, and halfway through they switched to AM General. The difficulty is deciding when to say one's more likely to be from the AM General era (but then how do we know an M-35 used in a 2000-ish movie wasn't over 25 years old?)

that's the thing, we don't know and even a hardcore expert can't from this views, besides for 2003 even if this was an old pre AM General it was surely overhauled and serviced with new parts which makes it impossible to know

that's why I think it's perfectly all right to call it AM General

G-MANN UK

◊ 2014-04-09 01:44

 I'd be OK with that, but what about ones in 1980s movies?

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-04-09 01:48
G-MANN wrote I'd be OK with that, but what about ones in 1980s movies?

as you please

it also depends some things here ... if the movie was done with military support then chances are it's a newer AM General

if it was done without military support then it can be an old one put out of service and sold to civilian market like Hollywood studios (better said companies who supply movie veicles)

but if it makes you feel better you could rename all pre 1990 ones to REO

-- Last edit: 2014-04-09 01:49:32

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