Advertising Last completed movie pages 1904 Humber 16/20 hp 'Beeston'Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: 
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◊ 2012-11-24 03:54 |
Shown in first 4-5 seconds of the film, and possibly the oldest footage. Garage was founded in 1902 by Robert Anderson and photo shows his house Craigard which he built alongside the garage, so probably a 1900s picture. If it helps - "The first car which R.A. owned was a Beeston Humber which he purchased in 1904: the registration number plate was HS 39. The first car sold by the garage was a 10/12 Coventry Humber in 1906; the purchaser was Mr James Fyfe Jamieson and the price of the car, which was described as ‘four seated with side entrance’ was £358-6-6d." - http://www.mearnshistory.org.uk/Garage.html . |
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◊ 2012-11-24 11:25 |
Link to "www.google.co.uk" |
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◊ 2012-11-24 16:25 |
A photo of Anderson's HS 39 from a different source![[Image: hs-39scran.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/hs-39scran.jpg) - looks much smaller than the Beeston ^, but apparently might have been his 2nd car with this number - also used much later on a series of 3 Austin Seven based specials - this is the second: ![[Image: hs39austin7special.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/hs39austin7special.jpg) These 7-based specials then got seriously weird - the 'Bug' - HS7141 was mid-engined with two Austin 7 engines joined to create an 8 cylinder: ![[Image: hs-7141andersonsaustin78cyl.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/hs-7141andersonsaustin78cyl.jpg) Another later car, still with HS7141 is displayed at Glasgow Museum of Transport - Link to "www.glasgowlife.org.uk" , http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/viewimage.html?oid=32268&i=393372 . And additional assorted footage at http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=7341 - this is getting intriguing.... -- Last edit: 2013-02-02 03:20:05 |
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◊ 2012-11-24 18:25 |
First thumbnail 1903 Humberette Link to "www.google.co.uk" Main picture appears to be a Beeston Humber, follow my previous link.. -- Last edit: 2012-11-24 18:27:33 |
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◊ 2012-11-24 19:02 |
OK - thanks. Beeston (Nottingham) was the early factory site, not part of the official name, so we don't have a new make. Looks as if plate also on /vehicle_515380-Austin-Healey-Sprite-1958.html , which looks as if tuned. It's now on a 2011 silver BMW 530D SE. -- Last edit: 2012-11-25 00:31:37 |
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◊ 2012-11-25 21:02 |
The terms "Beeston Humber" and "Coventry Humber" were used amongst the old car fraternity to distinguish the two ranges produced by Humber between 1903 and 1909. Humber's first 4 wheeled vehicles appeared in 1899 and the Beeston factory opened in 1903. When the large new factory at Coventry opened in 1908, the production was run down at Beeston, and the two terms dropped out of use. Beeston is not, therefore, a model name. It appears that both the factories produced Humberettes; 10-12, 12-14 and 20-25 hp cars were produced in Coventry, and 8-18 and 16-20 hp at Beeston. The 30 hp six cylinder car appeared about 1907. |
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◊ 2012-11-25 21:36 |
So, if we suppose this is the 1904 Beeston from the local history website does 16-20 look right for this one - it's reasonably big and could be similar to /vehicle_11213-Humber-16-20-HP-1906.html ? It looks more like a family group than I'd expect for the 1907 reference to his first car sold, where I'd expect some sort of handover or handshake and something much closer to show faces and identifiable people to commemorate the occasion recognisably. |
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◊ 2012-11-26 09:12 |
The one total certainty is your link to the 16-20 in Those Magnificent Men, you must believe the car's owner after all! The 30 hp introduction in 1907 is confirmed by both the link to the Humber register, and my source, a book written by David Scott-Moncrieff in 1955. Unfortunately the image is so poor that all we can do is say it looks about the right size and design to be a 16-20 as I have a picture of an 8-18 which is a smaller wheelbase two seater, if we assume the date of production to be 1904, although that may be a bit early for the 16-20. -- Last edit: 2012-11-26 12:37:02 |
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◊ 2017-09-27 01:46 |
A bit of background from a book on Scottish motoring. Originally founded by Robert Anderson as a cycle dealer, Andersons became the first ever Humber agent, and in the early days (1920s) was also Austin and Armstrong Siddeley dealer. Three sons joined the business, while a fourth became a distinguished local headmaster. The four Anderson Specials were built by Robert, who seems to have been a machine-tool genius, first building his own lathe, which was then manufactured as the Churchill Vertimax in a local factory at Spiersbridge, and bought by Lockheed and Goodyear in large numbers for disc brake production. After WW2 he invented a machine for manifold production which was taken up by Ford USA. The first Anderson Special in the 1920s used a Humber 8/18 engine. The second one - 'The Bug' and the Glasgow Museum car - had a rear-mounted flat-8 engine, 4wd and retracting headlights which could be swivelled out by turning a handle in the side of the bonnet. The fourth in the early 1930s had rubber and hydraulic suspension and could do the 1950s Citroen DS trick of driving around with a wheel removed. |
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