Advertising Last completed movie pages 1935 Bentley 3½ Litre Sports Saloon by Park WardClass: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: 
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◊ 2013-05-13 20:16 |
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◊ 2013-05-13 20:40 |
3 1/2 litre Park Ward (sports) saloon ? /vehicle_178444-Bentley-31-2-Litre.html maybe 4 1/2 litre ? -- Last edit: 2013-05-13 20:50:28 |
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◊ 2013-05-13 20:49 |
I suspect that this car may not be what the number plate, a June 1939 onwards County Durham registration suggests it to be. The 4 1/4 litre, (not 4 1/2, which was something completely different) engine was introduced in March 1936 but the styling cues on this body are seen on earlier cars with the 3 1/2 litre engine, built between 1933 and 1937. There were variations in the body, some had the rear doors hinged from the back for instance. If we go by the number plate as correct, it is a 1939 4 1/4 litre Bentley with Park Ward coachwork unless anybody knows better. (Robgeelen?) -- Last edit: 2013-05-13 21:20:24 |
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◊ 2013-05-13 22:55 |
Hi johnfromStaffs, as i have learned from you it is 4 1/2 litre but otherwise pretty standart "Derby" Bentley, found lots of quite similar shaped Park Ward Saloons , but none exactly the same, once with different cut out bootlid for e.g. or rear bumper added and rear door hinge you have mentioned. -- Last edit: 2013-05-13 22:58:17 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 08:25 |
No, no. Not Four and a half, but four and a quarter. The four and a half was a Cricklewood built four cylinder product of the old Bentley company. http://www.goodingco.com/car/1928-bentley-4-12-litre-le-mans-sports This is a Derby built six cylinder product of Bentley when owned by Rolls-Royce. Link to "www.coachbuild.com" Chalk and cheese! -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 08:46:31 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 12:30 |
EPT plates continued to mid-1940, so this may have been produced in early WW2 and might not have had normal spec?? |
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◊ 2013-05-14 14:59 |
The chassis (if a 4 1/4) would have been built before the cessation of 4 1/4 litre production in May 1939, following which the next sanction was for the Mark V Bentley with many differences including independent front suspension, of which 35 were to have been built. The outbreak of WW2 put a stop to this when only 17 had been built. The only images I have seen of a saloon Park Ward Mk V carry the later design of body that looks very like a Mk VI, with no spare wheel cover on the boot lid, but with the back doors hinged from the rear. http://www.rrab.com/jul99.htm The 1939 to 1940 registration on the car in the picture may have been due to the length of time the coachbuilder took to complete the body. It is also possible that an earlier body could have been fitted to a new chassis in order to overcome shortage of materials, as the Ministry of Supply took over pretty quickly to support the war effort. From the look of the back number plate, I would suggest that it may be fake, although looking back through my Bentley Drivers Club membership lists I have found that EPT 622 was once a member, and that was a 4 1/4, but I have no coachwork details. -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 17:41:07 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 15:33 |
oh, sorry, have meant 4 1/4 didn´t want to start debatte on this, What i really wanted to say, is: it looks so unpretentious even for a Bentley, bigger bootlid could be developed out of otherwise identical 3,5 litre Park Ward body, coming to same conclusion it could be due to wartime has started, when completed. -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 15:47:07 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 16:15 |
John has an old Bentley. What's Faux-pas in German?  |
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◊ 2013-05-14 17:03 |
http://www.boldride.com/ride/1954/bentley-r-type-countryman#gallery/3 This is the type of Bentley in my garage, I have chosen this picture as it is the same colours as my car. I think the pictures and the descriptions have got confused, because I don't recognise this car as a Countryman, but a Standard Steel Saloon, like mine. If you ever get chance to stand by a 3 1/2 or 4 1/4 litre Bentley, they don't look unpretentious, that bonnet is lo-o-ong! Link to "www.prewarcar.com" The cars are quite low built, but the wheelbase is 10ft 6 inches, that is 3.20 metres, in fact 6 inches longer than my R-type. -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 18:05:41 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 18:23 |
Faux-pas still is Faux-pas, becoming obsolete, replaced by more familiar NoNo or absolute Nogo  -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 18:43:36 |
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◊ 2013-05-14 18:35 |
where i live, is a collector, having a similar 1950ies one, beside his Topolino, and Messerschmitt KR (about to talk myself into trouble again) Anytime, when i hear the engine starting, going to prepare digicamn only once managed, to take a photo, when he was passing window, made me goosebumps. -- Last edit: 2013-05-14 18:42:14 |
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◊ 2013-05-15 20:57 |
This is a fairly early circa 1935 Bentley 3 1/2 litre Sports Saloon by Park Ward, which was probably re-registered when the first owner traded it in in 1939, whilst transferring his personal private plate to his next car. |
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◊ 2013-05-15 23:30 |
Thanks, I'm glad that got sorted out, I thought the body was an early one. |
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