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◊ 2013-07-01 16:52 |
With these side moldings and these overriders, I have impression it can be a Fiat 770 S (Seat rebadged for Germany). Or some better version of the Neckar/NSU-Fiat Jagst 2, but can't confirm, was it available with both these details at the same time... -- Last edit: 2013-07-01 17:26:53 |
-- ◊ 2013-07-01 18:02 |
The badge looks like this:![]() |
◊ 2013-07-01 19:48 |
Why it has been finally listed as '65 600D? Similar badge had also the 770S. ![]() |
-- ◊ 2013-07-01 19:53 |
Ask electra225. |
◊ 2013-07-01 20:25 |
The Seat 770 was sold here only in the last years until 1973, after the Italian and German production had stopped. The quality of the colour of the pics is not good, so I cannot say, if the TÜV-badge (here the HÖKO-plastic version) is for 1973 (white) or 1975 (pink). Definitely not 1974 (brown) -- Last edit: 2013-07-01 20:30:10 |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:10 |
'66 lacked that chromed side trim, but I think, without being sure, that the gum on the bumper guards appeared on the very last units of the '65. A blue '65 car I recently saw is in the same situation and I think it could be original. The hub cups are those used since march 1965. I though the rear script was Fiat and not German, so it could be a NSU-Fiat Jagst -- Last edit: 2013-07-01 23:46:09 |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:38 |
And what front decoration it had? The similar period "Jagst 2" had different badge, as w/o the line below the letters: http://flameroad.com/Neckar/Neckar-Jagst-770.html#.UdHZ4Ni0PBw Also, as I wrote, I can't find any late Jagst with these chromed side trim, seems it didn't have it same like the Fiat. But (Seat) Fiat 770 S in fact fits quite well also in case of the hubcaps: Link to "www.autowallpaper.de" Link to "www.google.pl" -- Last edit: 2013-07-01 22:02:14 |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:46 |
Does this help? http://autos.pytalhost.eu/Fiat770/ |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:49 |
Don't ignore the fact, that here in Germany Fiats here were/still are cars for the poorer people and often people, who aren't car-connaisseurs. So if there are any repairs -which appears at Fiats really not rarely- they choose the cheapest way, with parts from the junkyard and so. So you should better not be too focussed on the originality of Fiats, especially not of the really poverty-spec little ones. A time ago a fellow, who works as a Fiat-mechanic told me: "Of course the poverty and the stinginess of our customers sucks a lot - but we Fiat-guys are skilfuller and trickier than the Mercedes- or Audi-mechanics. Because here the customers urge us to repair the old parts and too look for cheap alternatives, while at rich-people-car-brands they just replace the broken part with new, original stuff" ![]() |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:52 |
I know it can be not original, but if it fits visually to the specification of the particular model, it is hard to ignore this too. The 770S in brochure doesn't have already the side moldings, but still have them in the pic at the last page. |
◊ 2013-07-01 21:58 |
As I wrote above, the Seat was sold in Germany from 1969 onwards - but the car here already has repainted rust-edges (see the door) - otherwise: it's a Fiat/Seat ... ![]() |
Andre Malraux ◊ 2013-07-01 22:38 |
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◊ 2013-07-01 23:25 |
1965 Fiat 600 D had the old style front decoration (that used since 1955!). It is possible anyway that both the white car in this film and the blue car I mentioned above have had their own original bumpers changed with a newer kind one. By us Fiats were the normality and the comments by some menbers about the social situation of many Fiat owners is valid in Italy, too. -- Last edit: 2013-07-02 06:38:42 |
◊ 2013-07-02 00:08 |
Yes I thought you mean late 1965 (calendar year) car, now I see you meant more the MY. Well nothing what would be against the 770 S also isn't visible. |
◊ 2013-07-02 06:37 |
I agree |
◊ 2013-07-02 13:53 |
Well, they were in fact ineed unreliable, compared with other brands (o.k.,in West Germany British cars had an even worse reputation). The reputation of Fiat became worse in the 70ies, when the rust-horror-cars appeared. Of course, all other makes had the same problem -think about the 1974 Golf I callback of Volkswagen in 1979/80- but Fiat was still worse (only Chrysler Simca came after Fiat). This rust-drama of the 70ies has destroyed the reputation of Alfa Romeo and Lancia in Germany - so heavily, that it's still present today. The Alfas and Lancias from the 50ies and early 60ies were also here seen as high-tech precious items with a great design inside, outside and even in the eingine-space. But then came the Alfasud and the Beta... |