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1943 Pacific Car and Foundry M26 'Dragon Wagon' Wynns haulage conversion

1943 Pacific Car and Foundry M26 'Dragon Wagon' in Look at Life: Turn of the Wheel, Documentary, 1964 IMDB

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: US — Built in: UK

1943 Pacific Car and Foundry M26 'Dragon Wagon' Wynns haulage conversion

[*][*][*][*] Vehicle used a lot by a main character or for a long time

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dsl SX

2013-12-20 20:29

YDV plate = mid 58 (or YDW = late 61, but I prefer YDV). Rear plate visible here.

johnfromstaffs EN

2013-12-20 20:48

It's DW, County Borough Council of Newport (Mon), they all were.

This one's called Dreadnought and is, as were its brethren, a converted WW2 Pacific M26 "Dragon Wagon".

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7869726@N02/6857912720

Quoted from a correspondent called Kingdom on "WW2 Talk"

"I had read that the Wynn's Pacifics were bought from a disposal site in a Kentish quarry, and some years ago I was able to ask John Wynn about this. He said that it was true, and that they were the armoured version - Wynn's workshop stripped off the armoured bodies which were sold for scrap bringing in more than the cost of the vehicles. In effect, Wynns used the Pacifics for over 30 years for free."

http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/17802-m26-dragon-wagon/

As far as dating the vehicle goes, is it the convention to use the date of original build, or the date of the registration plate after the conversion?

-- Last edit: 2013-12-20 21:55:58

dsl SX

2013-12-21 02:17

Interesting question. I've entered it as original WW2 date/class/origin with some added info about its new life. Comments?

jcb UK

2013-12-21 08:57

All ex military vehicles are civilian re registered so original build date , for me.
These are definitely Pacific M26's under the skin, I have read they cost £400 each which was the fraction of the price of a new Scammell.
British ex military vehicles used to get the current year plate when civilian registered leading to people getting confused with their actual age, now they get an age related plate.

-- Last edit: 2014-01-02 09:49:22

johnfromstaffs EN

2013-12-21 09:38

dsl wrote Interesting question. I've entered it as original WW2 date/class/origin with some added info about its new life. Comments?


That's the way I would have suggested. In the old car world this problem is frequently met by taking a similar approach, quoting chassis numbers if necessary. Quite a few Bentleys have acquired multiple identities due to the length of their existences, and also to re-allocation of cherished number plates when a new car is bought.

The comment I quoted about Wynn's effectively getting the trucks for free must be far from the case. That cab/body rebuild didn't cost nothing, and the picture of Dreadnought 195 from the back shows a Cummins Diesel badge, the original Hall-Scott 440 petrol engines being superseded by more modern equipment.

http://www.dse.nl/~vrzaob/wc52/pacific.html

-- Last edit: 2013-12-21 11:06:22

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