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1990 Mercedes-Benz 250 GD 'Wolf' [W461]

1990 Mercedes-Benz 250 GD [W461] in Die Rettungsflieger, TV Series, 1997-2007 IMDB Ep. 8.11

Class: Cars, Off-road / SUV — Model origin: AT — Made for: D

1990 Mercedes-Benz 250 GD 'Wolf' [W461]

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mike962 DE

◊ 2014-08-21 17:53

 G-Klasse ?

now surely INGO must say something about that dude :p

-- Last edit: 2014-08-21 17:55:38

Ingo DE

◊ 2014-08-21 17:59

 Yes, G-Klasse, but named "Wolf" in Bundeswehr-usage.

The dude is a Feldwebel (sergeant), at that time the guard commander of that barracks-area. No beret, so the unit is not identifyable.

antp BE

◊ 2014-08-21 18:08

 W461 then?
(Wikipedia: "The 461 is the military model")

Ingo DE

◊ 2014-08-21 21:00
antp wrote W461 then?
(Wikipedia: "The 461 is the military model")

:think: No, the German Wiki says something different (but it's a bit confusing, I haven't understand the exact definition :/ )

Ah, found at www.motor-talk.de:
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W460- alte Karosserie, altes Interieur, Verteilergetriebe: 2WD oder gesperrt, keine ABS, bei 4WD Verspannungen im Antriebsstrang weil Verteilergetriebe immer 50/50 gesperrt Motoren 240GD 74PS, 300GD 88PS, 300GD 113PS, 230GE, 280GE, 300GE, 500GE aus W126

W461 - alte Karosserie, zuerst altes Interieur, später leicht aufgefrischt Torsen-Verteilergetriebe: permanenter Allradantrieb, keine Verspannungen im Antriebsstarng, variable Kraftverteilung, ABS-fähig, bei Bedarf Sperrung möglich, Motoren 290GD 95PS, 290GD Turbo 120PS, und eine Benziner nur kurzzeitig im Programm

W463 - neue Karosserie (speziell Front, hinten Tankdeckel, andere Stoßstangen), Innenraum öuxuriöser, ab etwa 2000 Interieur vom W203, Torsen-Verteilergetriebe: permanenter Allradantrieb, keine Verspannungen im Antriebsstarng, variable Kraftverteilung, ABS-fähig, bei Bedarf Sperrung möglich, Motoren: 300GD 113PS, 350GD Turbo 136PS, G300TD 177PS, G270CDI 170PS, G400CDI 250PS, 300GE, G320 220PS, G500 306PS, G55 354PS, G55K 476PS

summary:
- W460: old body, 2WD
- W461: old body, 4WD
- W463: new body

:think: Oh, this guy says something different:
Quote Otto1
Der 461er ist ein ausstattungsmäßig abgespeckter 460, gedacht für Kommunen, Orgnisationen o.ä., für den Privatkunden wurde ja der 463 geschaffen.

"The 461 is a basic 460, made for official use, for authorities, organisations, town communities etc.. The W463 was specially made for private customers"

About the W462 the Germany Wiki says, that this was only the version, assembled from CKD-kits by ELBO in Greece. Interesting, didn't know that :think:

-- Last edit: 2014-08-21 21:01:08

antp BE

◊ 2014-08-22 13:46

 W463 is simply the 1990+ updated model of the W460.
But it seems they still make the W461 according to Wikipedia...
If we can't really differentiate the W461 for the civil versions, maybe it is better to list all models with the W460/W463 codes? (we only have a few as W461 anyway)

-- Last edit: 2014-08-22 13:48:54

Ingo DE

◊ 2014-08-22 19:15

 The problem is, that the difference between W460 and W461 shall (except the fact, that the W460 was stopped someday) be the questions "2WD or 4WD" or "better interior or low-spec interior" - even about that there are different opinions [:kiki] except the fact, that these topics aren't visible from outside.
Maybe we separate between civil versions with private license plates and the plenty of "for official use"-versions, as military "Wolf"-editions, road maintenance-cars and so on.

It would be much easier, if Mercedes Benz would have separated by "military or civil", "cloth or metal roof", "SWB or LWB" or "2dr or 4dr" - but so... [:kiki]

antp BE

◊ 2014-08-25 17:17

 Hence why I suggest to skip W461 and use only W460 & W463...

-- Last edit: 2014-08-25 17:17:19

Ingo DE

◊ 2016-02-03 00:01
ingo wrote The dude is a Feldwebel (sergeant), at that time the guard commander of that barracks-area. No beret, so the unit is not identifyable.

There is no coloured lace visible on the outer edge of the epaulette
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffenfarbe_%28Bundeswehr%29
so it seems to be black, which means it's a Pionier (the guys with the heavy equipment: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pioniertruppe_%28Bundeswehr%29

Mystery Man DE

◊ 2019-05-02 16:26

 1993+ 250GD 'Wolf' [W461], made for Bundeswehr, so for Germany due to the different motor and interior than for town communities
/vehicles_make-Mercedes-Benz_model-250+GD.html
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_(Fahrzeug)

-- Last edit: 2019-05-02 16:27:09

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