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1967 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108]

1967 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108] in Bof... Anatomie d'un livreur, Movie, 1971 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: DE

1967 Mercedes-Benz 250 S [W108]

Pos: 01:27:51 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

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DidierF FR

2014-10-11 01:07

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rpcm PT

2014-10-11 02:00

It's a Mercedes W108 and - by what is possible to understand of the visible details - I think it's a 1966+ 250 S/SE or the less probable 300 SE.

DidierF FR

2014-10-11 02:01

Oh ben alors, quelle erreur d'appréciation de ma part !

Obrigado !

DidierF FR

2014-10-11 02:02

(No other pic for this one.)

rpcm PT

2014-10-11 02:06

De nada ;) For instance, another angle of the steering wheel to see the shape of the horn ring would help.

DidierF FR

2014-10-11 11:01

A whole 58 seconds for the Mercedes —actually, for the woman.
Two other angles different from the two already seen:
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And no notable modification of the situation hands/wheel, so… Carrramba ! Encorrre rrraté !

zodiac SE

2014-10-12 20:15

@rpcm:
It would be most satisfying if you could say what "visible details" makes you say this is a (1965) 1966-67 model and not a later one. In an earlier entry /vehicle.php?id=736434 you stated that you had "read somewhere" that changes of the horn ring and outside rear view mirrors occured in 1963, without stating where you read it.

I don't know if you have any deeper knowledge in Mercedes (if so, what?) as I've corrected you on several entries here on imcdb, but if you have PLEASE STATE THE SOURCE and FEATURES, to make this site as plausible as possible.

What makes me worry is that several magazines are using imcdb as a source for facts. Recently I read in a Swedish magazine that the Volvo 240-range has contributed in a little bit more than 1.000 films (I've forgotten the exact number, but it was very specific), which happened to be the number on this page, not understanding this is an ongoing project.


About this particular car:
The main picture, and in particular the first thumb, shows what appears to be creme MB-Tex or leather combined with a black, or very dark, instrument panel.
Early W 108 models had nine different colours on the instrument panel: Black, Anthracite grey, Brown, Dark brown, Middle grey, Blue, Maroon, Reddish brown and Sand.
From 1968 only three remained: Black, Dark blue and Dark brown.
That made it easy to combine colours on the upholstery with the instrument panel on the early models, but less so on later models.
(Source: MBIG Handbuch W 108/109)
At the moment, I don't know why the instrument panels became dark coloured on later models, but I suspect it has something to do with safety as brighter colours might reflect on to the wind screen while driving at night.

Pictures of earlier combinations might be shown here, although in black and white Link to "www.autoevolution.com" (at the bottom). For some reason it seems difficult to find accurate pictures as most cars of today is repainted or otherwise altered.

If early, the car above should have had a bright instrument panel, possibly sand. It seems it doesn't, and because of that I rather believe this is a later car.

Conclusion: This is likely a 1968+ 280 S or SE rather than (1965) 1966-67 250 S/SE or 300 SE (if not specially ordered, which was possible but very expensive).

-- Last edit: 2014-10-12 20:43:50

rpcm PT

2014-10-12 22:25

Actually the steering wheel horn ring seemed to me to be more likely of the type used on the 250 as also did the gearshift knob, showed on the left (the right being the 280 one).
[Image: 250sw108.jpg] [Image: 280sw108.jpg]
As you must know, the politics of Mercedes concerning the possibilities of choice of colours/accessories allows a huge variety of combinations so that it's not easy to find two 100% identical cars; I don't really know what colours of dashboards were available for the French market, but the majority of W108 250 S/SE I've seen have dark dashboards even with these more clear interior colours.


-- Last edit: 2014-10-13 00:46:14

zodiac SE

2014-10-14 17:06

@rpcm:

I wasn't aware of any differences in gearshift knobs, as all (as far as I know) early manual W 108/ W 111 (i.e. 250 SE/C) sold in Sweden has flour mounted gear lever, and for obvious reasons Swedish cars are the ones I know best. (Before Sweden entered the EU, all cars sold here had to be 'typed', which was a very bureaucratic, and very costly, business making the manufacturers 'type' as few versions as possible.)

But how do you know the above car has manual transmission? The lady seems far too relaxed to consider any gear changes.
Was the automatic knob different as well? Or was it changed from column gear shift to flour mounted ones at any time?

It took me some time to reply as I've tried to pin down changes in the interior that might be visible.
One change, that should have been interesting, is that the chrome strip that divide the dash board disappeared in Sept 1967, just mounths before introducing the /8 series, and was replaced with a plastic strip that had the same colour as the interior. Unfortunatelly that doesn't help much in this case as the interior has the same colour as the chrome strip would have looked like.

What might (just) be a recognizable feature is the summer ventilation (GER: Sommerbelüftung) https://www.flickr.com/photos/28413589@N04/8118427645 (which is the bigger black ventilation nozzle to the left of the steering wheel). It replaced the older chrome ones in Oct 1966 as of the introduction of the 1967 MY.
At least I can see it, as it stands out considerable more than the older ones.

What made me concerned is that so many W 108 is marked 1966+, when in the reality the problems with the M 108 (250 S) and M 129 (250 SE) engines, with very very steep oil consummation causing many engines to blow up, caused bad publicity and consequently bad reputation, which made them disappearing rather quickly. Mercedes did come up with a solution, but that wasn't until January 1967, and the reputation wasn't fully restored until the introduction of the /8 series.

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-- Last edit: 2014-10-14 18:06:47

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