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1946 Daimler DE36 Straight Eight Landaulet by Hooper

1946 Daimler DE36 Straight Eight in Schindler's List, Movie, 1993 IMDB

Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: UK

1946 Daimler DE36 Straight Eight Landaulet by Hooper

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 13:19

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G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 13:20

This car seems to replace Schindler's Horch. Features briefly in a couple of scenes, including the scene at the end where Schindler finally has to leave the factory and say goodbye to the Jews.

-- Last edit: 2007-01-10 14:00:25

pilou BE

2007-01-10 13:35

Daimler Landaulet 5.5 l 8 cyl ( DE-27)ca 1946

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-10 13:58

A right hand drive car is appropriate for Schindler because he was a Sudeten German from Czechoslovakia.
Quote Traditionally, traffic had driven on the left, but around 1925, Czechoslovakia accepted the Paris convention and promised to enforce right hand traffic "within a reasonable time frame". In 1931, the government signed the obligation to switch within 5 years (which did not happen). The main obstacles were financial cost and resistance in the countryside. In November 1938, parliament finally decided to change to right hand traffic with effect from May 1, 1939.

The occupation of the Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia by Germany on March 15, 1939 sped up the change. A few places switched the same day (e.g. Ostrava), the rest of the area of the Protectorate on March 17, Prague got a few more days to implement the change and switched on March 26.

Link to "en.wikipedia.org"

G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 14:02

The registration plate begins with "Ost" does that mean Austria?

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-10 14:45

G-MANN wrote The registration plate begins with "Ost" does that mean Austria?

IIRC 'Ost' (East) was the prefix for the Generalgouvernement für die besetzten polnischen Gebiete (General government for the occupied Polish areas), which ran the parts of occupied Poland not annexed to Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Government

But at this point in the film Schindler has relocated his factory to the occupied Czech lands, the "Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia", so I think an "Ost" plate would be incorrect.

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wickey SK

2007-01-10 14:49

hey, what about the stars rating :mad:

G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 15:07

That's it, I'm not sure how stars this should have. The thing is none of the vehicles in the film have that much screen time, there are no big vehicle sequences. Some appear in various scenes but are only briefly used in each one. This appears in about three scenes, including the one where Schindler bids farewell to all the Jews he saved.

G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 15:09

Shouldn't this be listed as a Daimler DE27 instead of Daimler Landaulet (isn't Landaulet a style like Convertible rather than a model name?

G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 15:13

Gag Halfrunt wrote
IIRC 'Ost' (East) was the prefix for the Generalgouvernement für die besetzten polnischen Gebiete (General government for the occupied Polish areas), which ran the parts of occupied Poland not annexed to Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Government

But at this point in the film Schindler has relocated his factory to the occupied Czech lands, the "Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia", so I think an "Ost" plate would be incorrect.


Schindler's DEF factory was located in Krakow, Poland, as was Goeth's Concentration Camp, this is where the action takes place during the first two-thirds of the film, and some of the other cars have "Ost" plates.

wickey SK

2007-01-10 15:32

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Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-01-10 16:04

G-MANN wrote

Schindler's DEF factory was located in Krakow, Poland, as was Goeth's Concentration Camp, this is where the action takes place during the first two-thirds of the film, and some of the other cars have "Ost" plates.

You're right -- the main picture shows Krakow rather than Schindler's second factory. But it's definitely the car he leaves in after speaking to his workers for the very last time.

Peter Ruifrok NL

2007-01-10 17:06

This is a DE36, not a DE27. These Daimler models were either DE36, DE27 or DH27.
The difference can be seen from the two side mounted spare wheels and the presence of bonnet side vents.
A DE36 and a DH27 have two side mounted spare wheels. The DE27 had only one spare wheel, usually in the boot although there exists one DE27 with its single spare wheel side mounted.
The DE36 and the DE27 have both bonnet side vents, the DH27 has not.
The other main difference between the DE36 on the one hand and the DE27 or the DH27 on the other hand cannot be seen, since it is hidden under the bonnet: the DE36 has a 5460 cc straight eight engine, the DE27 and the DH27 have a 4095 cc straight six.
Most DE's/DH's were built right hand drive, although a few left hand drives exist. If one purchased such a car, one purchased a rolling chassis. Then a suitable coach builder was choosen to make a body (usually Hooper, Freestone&Webb or Windover). This particular example looks like a Hooper to me.
DH's are special in the sense that they were already purpose-built as VIP-taxi's by Hooper. The DH stands for Daimler Hire, a major UK chauferred car hire company by then no longer related to Daimler.
DE's exist amongst others as limousines (with a partition between the driver's and the passengers' area), as landaulettes, drop head coupe's and even hearses. They combined very solid build with smooth driving and were expensive. DE's were sold to royalty, heads of state, captains of industry etc. In addition they were used to transport VIP's, for weddings and for funerals. DE's and DH's were built between 1946 and 1953. I am the registrar of the Daimler and Lanchester Owners club for these cars. If you are further interested, I maintain a web site www.wixallmoss.demon.co.uk

antp BE

2007-01-10 18:49

wickey wrote ***

I was going to see the same, from G-MANN's description

G-MANN UK

2007-01-10 19:41

Thank you for offering your expertise, Peter Ruifrok!

XJ40 UK

2007-02-19 01:13

it's nothing but a jaguar airliner coupe. maybe im wrong

-- Last edit: 2007-02-19 05:02:12

dsl SX

2012-07-30 19:22

Peter Ruifrok's link above is now http://home.wanadoo.nl/pruifrok/deregister.html .

Edit 3 years later - it's now gone.

-- Last edit: 2015-07-16 18:00:51

daimlere20 WL

2015-08-09 03:23

Link to Peter's website:

http://home.online.nl/pruifrok/

Vintage Hoot UK

2019-10-25 13:13

Curious that this (postwar) Daimler should be Schindlers List. Another example of Art dept ignorance and car suppliers fooling them. Truly a great car, but not built until after the war, and of course its British. This oldest British maker was the 'Horseless Carriage Co'& later became Daimler / Lanchester. ( Nothing to do with German Daimler-Benz ) The only possible 'German' link is the British Royals, who gave Daimler the Royal Warrant to supply their cars from 1900 to 1960 !
Regrettably even in 'The Crown' the art dept failed again, using the wrong cars for the Royals - they should have been Daimlers ! Better to consult an automotive historian first - www.vintagehoot.uk

Sputnik Motors WL

2024-10-28 00:00

What car did he really travel around in? surely not this 1946 model unless he was a time traveller

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