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1934 Austin 12/4 Harley

1934 Austin 12/4 Harley in Poirot, TV Series, 1989-2013 IMDB Ep. 1.03

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1934 Austin 12/4 Harley

Pos: 00:31:44 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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johnfromstaffs EN

2015-03-23 18:59

Quite difficult to scale the length of the bonnet, but I think it's a 1934 Austin Twelve Harley.

oddsox US

2015-03-24 02:47

[Image: poirotkidnapgetawaybak.jpg]

dsl SX

2015-03-24 03:56

AYF 325 = Make AUSTIN, Model OTHER, Colour BLUE, Year 1934, Engine Size 1465 cc

johnfromstaffs EN

2015-03-24 07:51

The nearest Austin to that engine size is a Light Twelve-Six, which was 1496cc.

The coachwork is undoubtedly Harley.

Link to "globalcarslist.com"
Shame about the 1963 number plate!

-- Last edit: 2015-03-24 07:55:01

dsl SX

2015-03-24 12:43

How useful/essential are Light and Heavy descriptors with these Austins?? They give a fair bit of fragmentation in the Austin list across all the 12/4 and 12/6 headings, so could/should we remove them??

johnfromstaffs EN

2015-03-24 14:16

The light Twelve-Six had six cylinders, and two alternative capacities, 1496 cc and 1711cc. It was accompanied by the Light Twelve-Four, a four cylinder 1525cc car, and preceded by the Heavy Twelve, originally introduced in 1921 at 1660cc as the Twelve and increased to 1861cc, both with four cylinders. The Heavy designation was applied only to the old design five main bearing engined cars, and was intended to avoid confusion with the later "Light" Twelve cars. By 1939, the 1525cc cars that shared the rounded body with the postwar Sixteen, tended to be known as just "Twelve" again.

Looking closely at the subject car, it does not have the word "Six" on the radiator grille, so could it be a Light Twelve-Four? As usual, the DVLA figure for the engine's capacity is incorrect and, in this case just causes confusion.

-- Last edit: 2015-03-24 15:54:42

dsl SX

2015-03-24 16:56

Changed to Light 12/4.

@jfs - thanks. I also looked at Glass's, this page, and Sedgewick & Gillies. My guess is that some bodies were only available on some versions, but trying to disentangle which/what/exact names is so far outside my envelope that I'm going to put the lid back on and run away very quickly.

johnfromstaffs EN

2015-03-24 19:07

That's an interesting list, never seen it before, and I didn't know that Austin's referred to the larger engined 12/6 as a Fourteen. The RAC horsepower caused a lot of bother, but more so for the large bore multi cylinder foreign cars, which is probably why the British government stuck to the £1 per horsepower per year tax. I know that sounds like nothing these days, but if your new car only cost £150, then an extra £1 on the road tax was a fact to be considered.

An old friend of mine, now gone, had a Heavy Twelve tourer which he had constructed from the best bits of two cars in the late thirties. It was still running into the nineties, he reckoned that you couldn't wear them out. With only 27bhp from a 1.9 litre engine, and a five bearing crankshaft he was probably right.

-- Last edit: 2015-03-24 19:20:31

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