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Laffly DER

Laffly DER in Le grand restaurant, Movie, 1966 IMDB

Class: Others, Tracked vehicle — Model origin: CH — Built in: FR

Laffly DER

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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sixcyl FR

◊ 2015-08-10 18:35

 [Image: tractab.jpg]

mike962 DE

◊ 2015-08-10 18:42

 I think this belongs more in tracked vehicle category as it's snow blower or in sweeper category

-- Last edit: 2015-08-10 18:43:53

truckface NO

◊ 2015-08-10 18:50

 Konrad Peter?

mike962 DE

◊ 2015-08-10 18:56
truckface wrote Konrad Peter?


:king:

it's this thing model DER
Link to "upload.wikimedia.org"

-- Last edit: 2015-08-10 18:59:20

mike962 DE

◊ 2015-08-10 23:07

 history of this vehicles
Link to "www.specialtrucks.ch"

this is a DER for sure
Link to "www.specialtrucks.ch"

-- Last edit: 2015-08-10 23:08:30

mike962 DE

◊ 2015-08-11 21:52

 origin is Swissland

see this pic
[Image: peter-der_antarktis_04.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2015-08-11 21:54:13

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-19 22:13

 we have a MIS-ID


it has a LAFFLY badge on door

[Image: untitled.6012.jpg]

and looks like one


[Image: rare-orig-foto-laffly-schneefrc3a4se-mit-kettenlaufwerk.jpg]




-- Last edit: 2021-12-19 22:25:02

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-19 22:18

 it's very confusing now we have this specimen

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[Image: 19406966ez.jpg]

[Image: 19406967gu.jpg]

-- Last edit: 2021-12-19 22:32:50

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-19 22:26

 so from what I gather producer is ERICH SCHAD and model is still DER origin Germany

-- Last edit: 2021-12-20 22:43:07

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-20 22:54

 found more info about this machines, they were build during WW2 in 1942 a few hundrets in Alsacia and are based on captured Renault R40 , notice same track chassie

[Image: renr35mod07-fa06635617eb8a648e72f9dbdbf682a3.jpg] [Image: 19406964aa.jpg]

https://www.armedconflicts.com/DER-snehova-freza-t39245

-- Last edit: 2021-12-20 22:56:37

antp BE

◊ 2021-12-21 14:18
mike962 wrote so from what I gather producer is ERICH SCHAD and model is still DER origin Germany

:??: with the Laffly badge, shouldn't we rather use that as make?

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-21 17:41
antp wrote
:??: with the Laffly badge, shouldn't we rather use that as make?

here appears laffly too but still the german company from alsacia as producer

[Image: 19406967gu.jpg]



-- Last edit: 2021-12-21 17:49:13

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-21 17:48

 here more info

INSCRIPTION
Påskrift (2 plater fra produsent.) : SUDDEUTSCHE Maschinenbaugesellschaft Erich Schad & Co. Strassburg i. Els. Patent Raco Peter Lizens: Ing. Alfred Schmidt/ St. Blasien Type DER Jahrgang 1943 Frese No 202
Påskrift (2 plater fra produsent.) : CONSTRUCTEUR/BAU LAFFLY ASNIERES (SEINE) FRANCE ERSATZTEILE ING. SCHMIDT ST. BLASIEN
Påskrift (Plate.) : ØVERAASENS MOTORFABRIK & MEK. VERKSTED, GJØVIK LPNR. 20263 TYPE OMBYGING PETER 1964.
Påskrift (Klistremerke/malt på.) : STATENS VEGVESEN NORDLAND MASKIN NR. 560-99
Påskrift (Man ser konjunkturene etter skriften, merk skrivefeilen.) : TIRPIS


https://digitaltmuseum.no/021025641272/snofreser



maybe Laffly build or just maintained them after the war ??

-- Last edit: 2021-12-21 17:50:57

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-21 17:52

https://digitaltmuseum.no/021025641101/snofreser

-- Last edit: 2021-12-21 18:05:04

mike962 DE

◊ 2021-12-21 17:55

 finally found the exact history

Quote History
This snow thrower was, according to the label, produced by the German company Erich Shad & Co, for the German exclusive distributor, the company Schmidt, in 1943. Schmidt had a license to produce this Swiss product. Schmidt received such large orders from the German state that he could not manage the entire production in his own factory, therefore many machines were produced at other factories. The marking on the machine shows that the company Erich Schad & Co. produced this machine at the Laffly truck factory in occupied France.


Quote The RACO-PETER snow blower patent is the basis for this machine, although it is quite different from the original "Peter" blowers that were produced in Switzerland and Germany.

General about Peter millers: The designer of the milling type was Konrad Peter from Switzerland, hence the name "Peter mill". The patent is called RACO-PETER. 4 main types were made:

BER belt walking with 2 pcs. gasoline engines,

DER- belt walking with 1 pc. diesel engine,

BEP wheel drive with 2 pcs. gasoline engines,

DEP wheel drive with 1 pc. diesel engine.

All types have stepless electric propulsion.

These main types mentioned above were used as names for both "Peter" and "Laffly" cutters. The Laffly products have a more powerful belt chassis "tank chassis".



so we have a an original swiss machine a german company who licensed it and build it , but also outsourced to french Laffly build based on Renault tanks


-- Last edit: 2021-12-21 18:32:57

ManuelB FR

◊ 2021-12-21 18:37
mike962 wrote finally found the exact history






so we have a an original swiss machine a german company who licensed it and build it , but also outsourced to french Laffly build based on Renault tanks

:king:
it won't be easy to categorize ;)

antp BE

◊ 2021-12-22 15:01

 With the Laffly badge I'd use that as make then

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