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◊ 2015-12-02 00:45 |
F-Series - Styleside bed |
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◊ 2015-12-02 02:19 |
1987-1991 Custom model. I would prefer to leave out the Styleside designation as it has never been the norm on the site to list that info for Ford pickup trucks. |
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◊ 2015-12-02 04:39 |
Yet it was used in Ford brochures to differentiate the 2 available bed styles? If we make that difference for GM products and (less often as they are less known/visible) for Dodge Utiline/Sweptline, Jeep Townside/Thriftside and IH Bonus-Load pickups, shouldn't we do the same for Ford models? All the more as it has already be done for some of them (Flareside/Styleside)? -- Last edit: 2015-12-02 04:40:00 |
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◊ 2015-12-02 09:21 |
If you re-read my comment, you'll notice that I said "norm on this site." Of course it's official Ford terminology, I'm not debating what's in the brochures. The reason I am against using these designations on the site is that while you and I may enter the information, others won't. As it is, there's only 3 pages where the "Styleside" term is entered. Pit that against the numerous pages of trucks that don't have that info (F-100/F-150/F-250/F-350/F-Series) and you'll realize how underwhelming the effort has been. As far as the GM examples, years ago Neptune took it upon himself to begin inputting the bed information for those trucks. I've always found it a bit unnecessary but I went along with it since he was committed to sticking with the term and I've tried to do so since to maintain consistency> With the exception of the rarer Stepsides, I just think it's unnecessary information to have. It seems a bit long and silly to have a designation such as "1991 Ford F-150 Styleside Extended Cab XLT Lariat." |
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◊ 2015-12-04 04:26 |
If I'm not mistaken, rare Stepside beds were common in the '60s, and the (new for 1957) Styleside option was the rare one. So maybe should we note the Styleside for this era and not the Flareside? But what generation should we use to switch, then? And about a 1991 Ford F-150 Styleside Extended Cab XLT Lariat: which information is important, and based on what, in this case? Is the Extended Cab more or less useful? Or the trim level, all the more as this latter is sometimes more a guess, for old vehicles in modern movies, as it can have been changed during a restoration? As usual, I'm just asking to understand a bit more, and to have a written record of what could be the best to be done, so everybody can refer to it later... -- Last edit: 2015-12-04 04:26:47 |
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◊ 2015-12-05 08:47 |
I'm sorry, what? Is that how you think we do it, by guessing the trim for a particular vehicle? This information is usually, if not always, based on what is visible, not a guess. Of course, you have to exclude some of our less reliable "contributors" who do make guesses. But they are the exception. -- Last edit: 2015-12-05 08:48:43 |
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◊ 2015-12-06 01:29 |
I was talking about restored vehicles, for which "visible trim" is sometimes fake when compared to the accurate trim they had when they went out of the dealer's shop. This is just due to the owners' preferences, so we have no way to know it, and it's often just the external accessories that are put on the vehicle, regardless of accuracy. So "guess" may not be the accurate verb, but the fact is that we then identify a wrong trim, as the corresponding internal accessories are missing. This said, I also think that some trim complements in the IMCDb were just guessed by contributors ("it looks like"... / "let's say"...) and were validated without having been checked. I don't mean that you admin are not conscientious, just that we admin may sometimes have been less attentive when "working" with complements .gif ":)") |
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◊ 2015-12-06 05:47 |
About your first point: restorations will usually have the correct badges. No serious restorer would mess that detail up. But when a wrong badge is visible, either due to an error or personal preference, most of the time it is easy to tell whether the badge is incorrect or not. For example, if a base-trim truck has a top-of-the-line trim badge, it will immediately become evident that something is amiss. As for your second point: Given how massive the site is, I won't dispute your statement. However, just based on the vehicles that I am at least vaguely familiar with and "specialize" in, I can tell you that the additional information is typically correct after being vetted. I think our biggest problem is having uploaders who submit a vehicle complete with an incorrect year and/or additional info. That is a hassle. But alas, that's a much different topic. |
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◊ 2015-12-08 06:43 |
The "restoration world" I know and met from time to time is apparently not as perfect as the one you know  One member of the VW club of my town, mechanic in "civil life", told me yesterday that about 20% of the Beetles and Transporters he knew were having (purposely) wrong documents coming from other vehicles. It apparently helps a lot to obtain a new registration number for imported vehicles or when the original documents are lost. And the list of mixes in trims and accessories he is asked to make when working on vintage vehicles is endless... |
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