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NEFAG TR-Series

NEFAG TR-Series in Un milliard dans un billard, Movie, 1965 IMDB

Class: Others, Ground conveyor — Model origin: CH

NEFAG TR-Series

Pos: 01:23:19 [*] Background vehicle

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DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 14:11

 This bit of a cute ground conveyor is the gift made by the movie to the World of Ground Conveyors Ultra-Specialists.

(Poor IMPDbers! There is a sequence, near the end of the film, entirely made inside and outside the Genève Airport, with, as here, even a supposed walk to the airplane. But not a single bit of a wing is seen!)

mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 15:12

 [Image: schlepper1.jpg]

http://forum.spur-n-schweiz.ch/thread.php?postid=51253


Link to "www.grootspoor.com"

-- Last edit: 2016-02-08 15:13:06

mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 15:14

 it's a Swiss NEFAG

[Image: elektroschlepper.jpg]

http://www.alpenwagen.com/

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DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 15:16

 Well… Yes, it's it, mike962, but they don't talk about the maker.

… Fine! Would NEFAG be, by any chance… another new make at your tableau de chasse?

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mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 15:19

 Alpenwagen is the toy manufacturer


in forum it's described as "Elektroschlepper Pfm 0123 NEFAG TR 5047e "


here too
http://www.easy01.de/etchIThome/dl_custom/kt061_n.pdf


Elektroschlepper means electric tug

-- Last edit: 2016-02-08 15:24:21

DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 15:36
mike962 wrote Alpenwagen is the toy manufacturer (…)
Elektroschlepper means electric tug
And then you'll teach me that it's in German language, which is spoken east of France?

… I thought I had missed something: I didn't find the make "NEFAG" for this Elektroschlepper in the site you first linked, neither in the second, where they talk of the TR 5047, giving to it 'Baujahr 1975' (which, perhaps, means built in 1975, you'll tell me).

In the third, they speak of TR 5047e, which I assume is an ulterior (this is latin) version of the (1975) TR 5047 machine.

But we are in a 1965 (these are arab figures) movie. Did NEFAG already build that stuff? What was the name of this Elektroschlepper at that time?

For the moment, with no too much of hyper-criticism, I only can bet on a Swiss-made machine.

(While I'm typing, hopefully you already provided all the answers.)

mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 15:42

 here evidence

first Tribelhorn was swiss electric vehicle producer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribelhorn

and in Book here they say

http://www.pioniere.ch/pdf/medienmitteilung_93.pdf


Quote Sein Sohn Leon Riccardo Tribelhorn wurde 1926 Direktor. Unter seiner Ägide entstanden
technisch anspruchsvolle Fahrzeuge, die jedoch nicht die Zuverlässigkeit früherer Konstruktionen
erreichten. Als Tribelhorn junior 1932 zur Konkurrenz wechselte, übernahm Chef-Verkäufer Hans
Weiss das Unternehmen und wurde 1937 zu dessen Inhaber. Unter seiner Leitung konstruierte die
EFAG – später unter dem Namen NEFAG – erfolgreich diverse Elektrokarren und
Elektroschlepper. Sie wurden zur Milchauslieferung, in der Industrie oder auf Friedhöfen genutzt.



so Tribelhorn company was bought by EFAG which later became known as NEFAG

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DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 15:43

 I've got something opening (very slowly, due to my connexion) here, mike962:

Link to "www.verkehrshaus.ch"

Maybe we'll find elements of interest.

DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 15:46

 Yes but… For the moment we can't say whether EFAG or NEFAG, with your 'evidence'.

(Because 'später'—would it, by any chance, means 'later'?— is not very precise.)

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mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 15:47

 well in forum they mention NEFAG so might as well go with it

didn't find any info which year EFAG became NEFAG


yes Spater means later

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DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 16:01
mike962 wrote yes Spater means later
I think you could give me the basis for a new aphorism including the words 'German' and 'Humour', with a beginning such as 'Talking of German humour is like…', the rest still being to imagine. Or to hush.

Anyway, NEFAG will fit for now, thanks for your finding! Let's hope we'll (most certainly, you'll) find the complement.

DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 16:02

 … And yes, it's a new make to your credit, mike962.

mike962 DE

◊ 2016-02-08 16:04

 model is TR 5047e


think the E is for Electric


and what you think of this ?
/vehicle.php?id=286781

-- Last edit: 2016-02-08 16:05:12

DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 16:16
mike962 wrote model is TR 5047e


think the E is for Electric
Gros soupir)
… I thought we had agree on the fact that all we know is: TR 5047 was built in 1975 (possibly 1975+).

I thought I had convinced you that TR 5047e was a probable later development of TR 5047 (and now, let me tell you I really doubt 'e' is there for 'electric', since it appears this company build electric vehicles only, that is its trade mark).

Now, I put it all together:
1. TR 5047 or TR 5047e are 1975+;
2. the movie is 1965-.

Will you still claim this is a TR 5047 or a TR 5047e?

DidierF FR

◊ 2016-02-08 17:16

 About the make, Link to "www.verkehrshaus.ch" (p.8):
Quote Die Schweizer Firma Elektrische Fahrzeuge AG, EFAG (ab 1937 Neue Elektrische Fahrzeuge AG, NEFAG)

(We'll try to remember.)

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