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2001 Citroën Relay 2.5 Turbo D 1400 Série 1

2001 Citroën Relay in Happy Valley, TV Series, 2014-2023 IMDB Ep. 2.01

Class: Cars, Chassis Cab — Model origin: FR — Built in: IT — Made for: GB

2001 Citroën Relay 2.5 Turbo D 1400 Série 1

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SM99 UK

◊ 2021-03-01 10:39

 Citroen not a Fiat as list here on the Vision website

https://www.visionmotorservices.co.uk/gallery/policevans-citroen1.html

Bux_48 IT

◊ 2021-03-01 21:51

 And it also has a Citroen grille.

Bux_48 IT

◊ 2021-03-02 23:04

 Relay being in England ;)

Sandie SX

◊ 2021-03-02 23:07

 Plate's visible on the link:
CITROEN RELAY 1400 TD SWB 2001
Registration number: Y148YBC
Body type: Panel Van
Colour: White
Date of first registration: April 2001

AleX_DJ AT

◊ 2023-02-24 11:43

 2.5 Turbo D

AleX_DJ AT

◊ 2023-09-07 18:52

 VIN VF7231G4215903869

mbenz222 US

◊ 2024-11-25 21:13

 Should be origin Italy instead. Many Relay/Jumper/Boxer are still listed under France but should be Italy. Likewise all the FIAT and Lancia branded Eurovans and the Scudos should be under France instead of Italy.

AleX_DJ AT

◊ 2024-11-25 23:34
mbenz222 wrote Should be origin Italy instead. Many Relay/Jumper/Boxer are still listed under France but should be Italy. Likewise all the FIAT and Lancia branded Eurovans and the Scudos should be under France instead of Italy.


I'd agree with you, but it's a controversial subject. There is not much detailed information, but I think there is enough to prove this theory.

For Mk1 Ducato/C25/J5/Express:
Car Design Archives wrote
While the duo Fiat 242 / Citroën C35 were styled at Citroën, its little brother was developed at the Centro Stile Fiat under Paolo Boano. The interior of the Ducato was outsourced to Studio Bonetto in Milan.


For Mk2 Ducato/Jumper/Relay/Boxer:
Transit Center wrote
Work on a completely new van, which was to break with outdated solutions and style, began in 1987. Ital Design, led by Giorgetto Giugario, was involved in working on the body of the new van. The guidelines the company received to develop the body of the new model were very simple: large cargo space, affordability for various body versions and reduction of air resistance.


For the Mk3, at least the styling is credited to Mike Robinson during his time as Design Director at Fiat, as it can be seen from his CV.

As for the Eurovans, again Car Design Archives report on two rejected Fiat proposals from 1987, stating that:
Car Design Archives wrote
[...]PSA and Fiat managements considered them too specific to fit smoothly into the range of the four brands. Instead, the soulless alternatives of Curt Gwin and Yves Dubernard's teams in Carrières-sous-Poissy were approved. [..]


This is about the Mk1, but it is highly likely that the Mk2 is also a French design, given the amount of PSA components - my family owned a Citroen C8 for years and I couldn't find a single part that reminded me of a Fiat production (ok, this is not what you call a proof :lol: )
No doubt for the Mk3 and Mk4, as the Mk3 project didn't involve Fiat (who instead rebadged the Renault Trafic) and the Mk4 was badged as a Fiat only after the launch of the French (and Toyota) siblings

-- Last edit: 2024-11-25 23:35:35

Bux_48 IT

◊ 2024-11-25 23:55

 Not to mention they are built in Italy and production is split at 65% for Fiat and 35% for PSA.

mbenz222 wrote Likewise all the FIAT and Lancia branded Eurovans and the Scudos should be under France instead of Italy.


They already are ;)

AleX_DJ wrote my family owned a Citroen C8 for years and I couldn't find a single part that reminded me of a Fiat production (ok, this is not what you call a proof :lol:


Well, I think the components are not a bad argument, especially is one is much more prevalent than the other :)

mbenz222 US

◊ 2024-11-26 02:54

 From my understanding the design and R&D mostly occurred in Italy, with France being tasked to design/engineer the smaller vans.

mbenz222 US

◊ 2024-11-26 20:12

 [quote=Bux_48]Not to mention they are built in Italy and production is split at 65% for Fiat and 35% for PSA.



They already are ;)



Last time I checked there were still a few Scudos and Eurovans under Italy.

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