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◊ 2020-10-14 23:43 |
3 door were built in Brazil for MKV while 5 door were built in RA. 1996/1997 MKVI was all RA built. |
◊ 2020-10-14 23:45 |
Why are we listing several generations of Escort with the CE14 code? ![]() Even if it's correct, is it useful? |
◊ 2020-10-15 00:02 |
The same platform with multiple facelifts that we use different MKs. Shouldn't it have the same code? Ford doesn't usually separate the different generations in Mercosur/Autoline/South America. The same platform is normally used for multiple generations. Clicking on [CE14] pulls together the other named models like: Orion/Verona/Escort as they all used the same platform. |
◊ 2020-10-19 04:46 |
CE14 is only for the MK5/MK5b/MK6 Escort (facelifts of the same model), it's wrong for the MK3 or MK4. For the MK3/4 there's the code name Erika, but I don't know if there's something else that fits better. |
◊ 2020-10-19 16:13 |
I can't find much useful about Escort codes. European Mk2 was "Brenda" project, Mk3 had Erika code - apparently it would have been launched as Ford Erika until they decided to continue with Escort name. European Mk4 had Erika-86 code as it was basically a facelift. As above, CE14 is only for the MK5/MK5b/MK6 Escort but unclear from what I've found how widely it spread for versions around the world. US Escort codes are above my paygrade - early ones seem close to European Erika design, then went in different directions as Mazda-derived or influenced ranges, then became unique to US, possibly with CT-20 code being applied at some stage but I'm unsure when and for what. For Brazil, first launch in June 83 was based on European Mk3 Erika and mixed tooling shipped from Britain and Germany with unique local tooling; there was no US contribution. Brazil was 3 door only for first few years, Argentina started in 1988 (so by now in European Mk4 period), using some parts imported from Brazil but launched a non-Brazil 5 door. I won't try to pursue beyond this point as I'd only be reciting wiki, but it seems there was no US influence on any South American Escort, only some increasingly diluted European input. Seems a useful exercise if it can be done reliably. My only comparison is with Chrysler Avengers, which seem to have similarly become more and more locally divergent across various South American production; occasional updates arrived from Europe but most of the evolution was local. |
◊ 2020-10-19 16:21 |
Yeah, my issue is that the MK3 and MK4 have now been given the code on here too. Even if it wasn't incorrect that would be an issue as the code wouldn't offer much value as it would just pull up thousands of Escorts from different generations. It's useful if applied to the MK5 and its derivatives, but not as it's being currently used. The CE14 issue seems to come from bad info on Wikipedia, which at one time insisted that all Escorts EU or US had this code rather than the Euro MK5: Link to "drivetribe.com" -- Last edit: 2020-10-19 16:29:26 |
◊ 2020-10-19 16:35 |
according to an e-mail antp received and published on the forum, US Escort/Lynx does not use that code -- Last edit: 2020-10-19 17:53:21 |
◊ 2020-10-19 16:38 |
Yeah, that's the other part of the Wiki error that has the MK3 and MK4 Euro Escort wrongly given that code. The MK3/MK4 Escort and the US Escort are distantly related (its not just them sharing the name). |