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The Big Mill, Documentary, 1963 IMDB

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kudos SX

◊ 2014-08-10 18:44

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Short film showing the production of sheet steel at the Ravenscraig and Gartcosh Works. Ravenscraig steel works, Motherwell, produced steel in many forms - to make cars and desks, bridges and ships for worldwide markets.

Link to "ssa.nls.uk"

-- Last edit: 2014-08-13 00:43:09 (chicomarx)

dsl SX

◊ 2014-08-10 18:48

 Several shots reused here - /movie_3508720-The-Big-Melt--How-Steel-Made-Us-Hard.html .

mike962 DE

◊ 2014-08-10 18:54

 haven't we enough of this by now ? :o

-- Last edit: 2014-08-10 18:54:29

kudos SX

◊ 2014-08-10 21:54

 No. :p

-- Last edit: 2014-08-13 18:46:29

dsl SX

◊ 2024-03-13 21:37

 Upgrading from this DVD, adding entries, comments pictures etc
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Also noted that the original National Library of Scotland source page now has better quality - not sure if an improved upload or better display than in 2014.

As the DVD print is darker than NLS, I'm adding some 2024 NLS screensnips alongside.

Overall the film is a compilation of sources thrown together - maybe some original footage of the steelworks in the mix, but lots of other re-used clips from a variety of sources, none credited or recognised in the commentary. All this is fairly standard procedure for this type of 1960s PR film, but worth noting there's a lot of footage from a documentary on Nigeria, particularly in the last 5 minutes or thereabouts, plus some shorter drop-in inserts earlier. No idea why it was chosen, but some interesting clips and inclusions for us to mull over.

Some truck cab footage which has me stumped. There's a later shot of a line-up of completed white Morris FGs lined up outside the factory which was given a page in 2014 and identified as the Bathgate factory, and the first thumb below has an FG front panel in background hanging from a gantry. But what are the other things?? Maybe 2 types of cabin shells?? My first reaction was the smaller ones are Mini Pick-up cabins, but they're not - front wings are flared and door is too deep. Noted in passing - Mini Pick-ups were only built in Longbridge and South Africa, but that red herring started me thinking whether this footage was an overseas BMC assembly plant instead of Bathgate??

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If it is by any chance an overseas plant, the workers - how to put this delicately?? - don't look very Nigerian .... and I don't think Nigeria had a BMC plant. Apart from the FG, I'm not even sure the other shells are BMC ..... overseas plants - eg Aus, ZA, Rhodesia, NZ - may have had all sorts of composite arrangements to build unlikely brands alongside each other

Or is it an external supplier producing cabs for assembly elsewhere - something like Briggs, Pressed Steel Fisher, Fisher Ludlow - again possibly mixing brands etc??

-- Last edit: 2024-03-14 03:05:16

Sunbar UK

◊ 2024-03-16 16:52

 Except for the FG, the cabs are unlike any BMC cab I can think of, or any British (Commer, Dodge UK, Ford UK etc.) for that matter.

The front wheel-arch intrudes into the interior as shown by the way the cab door aperture is shaped. The flat bulkhead/firewall suggests the engine is mounted both over and forward of the front axle unlike most UK trucks, Dennis being an exception. The cabs all seem to be LHD and either all the same or two variants of the same design. Nothing similar found for Ebro, Sava and Willème trucks, thinking of their BMC connection.

jcb UK

◊ 2024-03-22 22:36

 They are Ford Trader K Series cabs.
Popular overseas where many markets liked a bonnet in front of them as crash protection !

Compare this to thumb 1

/vehicle_1779082-Ford-K-Series-1965.html

-- Last edit: 2024-03-22 22:42:12

dsl SX

◊ 2024-03-23 00:06

 Good call. So we're probably into overseas territory somewhere. Aus built both FGs and K-Series as a starter for 10 points, and composite arrangements to build unlikely car brands alongside each other - no idea on trucks. We've got some ZA K-Series sightings but no production info, or whether they did FGs. Rhodesia a similar story - they definitely did Traders, although which type(s) unspecified. And NZ did all sorts of Brit things. So the jury is still out, especially as all these candidates were RHD.

Gag Halfrunt UK

◊ 2024-03-23 00:20

 Perhaps Otosan in Turkey?

Quote In 1959, the foundation of the Otosan (Otomotiv Sanayii, Turkish for 'Automotive Industry') factory was held in Istanbul, and in 1960 the Ford Consul was the first model to be produced at the plant, followed by the Thames and the Thames Trader van.[6] In 1965, the D1210 truck was added to production, and in 1966, the Anadol, the first mass-production passenger vehicle developed in Turkey. In 1967, the Ford Transit also began production and in 1973, the Anadol STC-16, the first sports car developed in Turkey.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Otosan

-- Last edit: 2024-03-23 10:44:38

jcb UK

◊ 2024-03-23 07:20

 I thought it may be Turkey.
As strong BMC and Ford truck sales there.

But did Turkish cities thrum to the early morning roar of FG delivery vans ? :)
Not sure they made them there.

-- Last edit: 2024-03-23 10:04:58

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