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◊ 2010-11-22 19:08 |
Brrr, what a terrible monster... Whatever it is, it is not a Packard. |
◊ 2010-11-22 19:12 |
Rear bodywork might give a clue to what this is based on?? |
◊ 2010-11-22 19:44 |
Unfortunately i can't find a rear view. Link to "minigrd.deviantart.com" http://www.panoramio.com/photo/31943400 Link to "www.mycicerone.ru" Here: Link to "www.forum.dawnygdansk.pl" I read that it's 1925-1927 140-145 inch Packard chassis with Danziger Karroseriefabrik body. And another thread, about Danziger Karroseriefabrik: http://www.forum.dawnygdansk.pl/viewtopic.php?t=2565&highlight=samochody unfortunately both in polish. I'm going to sleep on my laptop, so maybe weasel or Jale could translate it if anyone would be interested. |
◊ 2010-11-22 19:48 |
There was a Polish monster called the Easer RR that was a bit like this... Not 100% like that though. Might be one of those with some minor alterations (grill etc). I'll need to do some looking around as I can only find some that are two doors. Link here: http://easer.com.pl/english/#RR If you look down a bit on that link you might find a solution to our recent glut of unidentified Excalibur style cars from Russia and Eastern Europe. |
◊ 2010-11-22 20:40 |
If it's really an original from the 20ies or 30ies, the wheels are for sure not original. It's the first time, I've heard something about this coachbuilder from Danzig, though I've read some literature about that area and the time, because my father's family lived around there until Jan.1945. Compared with that company, Komnick from Elbing (in 1931 after bankrupcy overtaken by Büssing) is a really well-known brand from Elbing/Elblag. @fck: you have caused a big shock and probably a restless night with your links! It's about pic no.18 of the user Sabaoth in the Gdansk-forum. It could be, that the customs-officer, standing behind the Opel, is my own great-grandfather! He was a costums-officer in the Freie Stadt Danzig. Unfortunately I have problems to verify it, beause there are no photos any more existing from before 1945, and my father, the only still living person from this family-root, don't know, at which control-points he had worked. Otherwise Danzig was small and had not very many customs-clerks... |
◊ 2010-11-22 23:08 |
About two years ago, the same car was parked for a few minutes under my windows. Ugly, but rather unusual. Wedding, not funeral... Means, not made for movie, more made for weddings, although those links (fck) can't be wrong and it is perhaps a real oldie only in such condition. fck, why do you think it is this "Danziger Karroseriefabrik"? I didn't read entire text, but they mention there a coupe body in case of Packard chassis... -- Last edit: 2018-04-12 20:20:24 |
◊ 2010-11-22 23:15 |
More made for a joke?? |
Gomselmash11 ◊ 2010-11-22 23:27 |
LOL! |
◊ 2010-11-23 00:58 |
It appears to have independent front suspension, so I doubt it is an old chassis. Even though it has a Packard-esque radiator shell, the main styling influence is the Bugatti Royale - two of them have this style of two-toning. The British Panther DeVille was similar - but maybe not as long? -- Last edit: 2010-11-23 00:59:11 |
◊ 2010-11-23 01:08 |
Agree the Royale-ish style (but very -ish). Definitely not the Panther De Ville - as you say was shorter - and looked more to the scale of a grand car - big wheels etc. It was kitsch but the proportions were acceptable. This one is just long and silly - like a stretch go-kart with whatever bits of bodywork they could find in 5 minutes bolted together. I wondered if the rear of the cabin might be recognisable in the same way as Beaufords use a Mini eg /vehicle_34483-Beauford-1980.html . -- Last edit: 2010-11-23 01:17:51 |
◊ 2010-11-23 05:48 |
@Weasel: "fck, why do you think it is this "Danziger Karroseriefabrik"? I didn't read entire text, but they mention there a coupe body in case of Packard chassis..." The guy from forum wasn't sure it is coupe or coupe-landaulet coz he didn't see well that rear part of roof was convertible or not. @ingo: -- Last edit: 2010-11-23 05:48:51 |
◊ 2010-11-23 22:07 |
@fck: do you have the possibility, to ask the contributor in the other forum, if he could send me this photo by email? My parents have no internet, but somehow I can show it to my father for an identification-try? |
◊ 2010-11-24 02:13 |
(bad) Bugatti Type 41 Royale Replica -- Last edit: 2010-11-24 02:15:06 |
◊ 2010-11-24 09:35 |
Sure, I can give a try. I wrote an email to him with ask for a high-resolution scan of that picture. I hope he will agree. -- Last edit: 2010-11-24 09:43:58 |
◊ 2010-11-24 22:12 |
It's not always easy enjoying the benefits of coachbuilding... Small children may wish to leave. |
AMC man ◊ 2011-09-18 04:25 |
It looks similar to the one in The stunt man. |
tom11 ◊ 2011-12-15 03:21 |
Just list as Bugatti Type 41 Royale replica, since that is the main influence. |
◊ 2018-02-15 18:59 |
A loan from the Automobile and Technology Museum in Otrebusy: Link to "lh3.googleusercontent.com" And yes, it is a wedding car, even with historic plate: http://www.muzeum-motoryzacji.com.pl/gb/our_offer/npics/packard10s1.jpg -- Last edit: 2018-02-15 19:02:50 |
◊ 2019-01-15 23:22 |
... and according to their website it's a Packard Landaulet from the 1930s Link to "www.muzeum-motoryzacji.com.pl" Suitable moment to turn the computer off now. Good night! |