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◊ 2015-02-23 23:49 |
Local Assembly? Ford did built British, German and American models in Harare (Salisbury back then). |
◊ 2015-02-24 00:34 |
I've never seen any reference to Cortina assembly in Rhodesia - ZA would be nearest unless imported from UK. Harare rings very faint bells for 50s assembly of Zephyrs but I've no idea now where I got that idea from |
◊ 2015-02-24 10:26 |
This Wikipedia article about Ford Rhodesia is only in German, but it shows pictures of some vehicles built by them, and the 1961 - 1966 Zephyr is among them. |
◊ 2015-02-24 13:28 |
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company_of_Rhodesia mentions so many different UK/US/D models it is a bit mind-blowing if they were all actually assembled, but I can't read German. Does the text say Cortina from 1964?? https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4903830736/lightbox/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4903828668/lightbox/ add some illustrations and claims, including being a source of RHD Taunus P3 and the Consul Classic. That rings another faint bell about the Kenyan conversions by EA Hughes of 17 Consul Classics into estates - /vehicle_310545-Ford-Consul-Classic-Station-Wagon-109E-1961.html - and I think I've seen a comment somewhere that these started as Harare assembled saloons. So I think you've hit something useful here about Ford Rhodesia assembly. But it seems a bit too spectacular in terms of the apparent range of models (cars/trucks/tractors) plus countries of origin for credibility - far wider for instance than known ranges from Ford assembly plants in eg Aus, NZ, ZA, South America, so I'm still a bit cautious. If Ford's intention was that Rhodesia became their main manufacturing base for the whole of southern Africa (so exporting to eg ZA, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania etc) this might become more believable, but would presumably have been halted after Rhodesia declared UDI at end of 65 and things got messy. -- Last edit: 2015-02-24 13:52:31 |
◊ 2015-02-24 13:51 |
Also noted from http://www.classiccarsinrhodesia.co.za/Makes/Ford_UK_1941_onwards.html - a Mk1 "1965-66 Cortina GT ... Built by Ford Motor Co, Rhodesia....." (two-thirds down the page). And Link to "www.enfostuff.com" - including a RHD early 12M estate in Salisbury, plus photo of Saisbury assembly line of Anglia 105E and Mk2 Zephyr/Zodiac - Link to "i269.photobucket.com" More Rhodesian pics: - first batch of Mk2 Zephyrs - https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4501522381/in/set-72157623598476427 - building Mk2 Zephyr engines - https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4502157236/in/set-72157623598476427 - first Rhodesian production chassis plate - https://www.flickr.com/photos/ifhp97/4502213214/in/set-72157623598476427 - probably a Mk2 Zephyr from the 206E code |
◊ 2015-02-24 14:28 |
I'll try and translate the wikipedia page from German into English: "The Ford Motor Company of Rhodesia (Pvt.) Limited was a former car- and engine-manufacturer from Salisbury, which was the capital of Southern Rhodesia, a British colony at that time. Company History The company was founded as a subsidiary of Ford Motor Company of Canada in 1957 and was responsible for building vehicles for markets in East Africa and South-West-Africa. The company startet in 1957 with importing complete vehicles from the United States and the United Kingdom. The British cars Anglia 105E, Consul, Zephyr and Zodiac, as well as the American Custom, Galaxie and F-100 were available then. One of the most successful full-size vehicles in Rhodesia was the Ford Fairlane, which was available as a regular sedan, a "500" model and as a wagon, which was called "Squire". In 1959, the Edsel Corsair and the Ford Starliner were added to the model range. In 1961, Ford Rhodesia began with the assembly of their own vehicles and engines, starting with the old Ford Zephyr, not manufactured anymore in Europe, the new F-100, and the Fordson Dexta and the Thames Trader. Chassis and cargo area of the Ford F-100 were produced by the local company "Kabot Brothers", because the previous generation had been useless in the African terrain. Another new car in the lineup was the Ford Zodiac, along with the American Ford Falcon [XK], which replaced the Ford Custom. As in most other countries, the Ford Taunus 17M was also available in Rhodesia, so was the new generation of the Ford Consul. After Custom and Starliner vanished in 1962, the model lineup was refreshed in 1964. New models included the Ford Cortina, together with the new Mustang. Both Fairlane and Falcon were built in new generations. When the brand of Fordson was discontinued in 1965, there was no farming vehicle built by Ford for the south african market left. When looking for a new partner, Ford Rhodesia worked together with Deutz, and built the Deutz F1M 414. Ford's era in Rhodesia ended with the declaration of independence, because resolutions by the United Nations made them leave the country. Because of formal reasons, Deutz was allowed to build their tractor one more year, before the company was bought by Willowvale Motor Industries, a state-owned company, although the factory itself was still owned by Ford." The Wikipedia article about Willowvale Motor Industries is also in German, but it shows a wide range of cars built by them: Alfa Romeo 1300 Super (1968 - 1979) Alfa Romeo 1300 Ti (1968 - 1973) Alfa Romeo 1600 Super (1968 - 1979) Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina (1969 - 1972) Alfa Romeo 2000 Berlina (1972 - 1977) Alfa Romeo Alfasud 1200 (1974 - 1986) BMW Cheetah 1600 (1968 - 1973) BMW Cheetah 1604 (1973 - 1982) BMW Cheetah 1800 (1968 - 1973) BMW Cheetah 1804 (1973 - 1982) BMW Cheetah 2000 (1968 - 1973) BMW Cheetah 2004 (1973 - 1982) BMW Cheetah 525E (1982 - 1986) Citroën DS 19 (1968 - 1979) Citroën CX 2400 (1979 - 1986) Daihatsu 1000 (1967 - 1970) Daihatsu 1000 Estate (1967 - 1970) Daihatsu Consorte (1970 - 1986) Daihatsu Consorte Estate (1970 - 1986) Daihatsu Consorte P/U (1980 - 1986) Datsun 1600 (1976 - 1980) Datsun Bluebird (1980 - 1984) Isuzu Bellett 1500 (1967 - 1974) Isuzu Bellett Gemini (1974 - 1986) Mazda 1500 Luce (1967 - 1972) Mazda 1500 Luce Station (1967 - 1972) Mazda B1600 (1972 - 1986) Peugeot 404 (1968 - 1979) Peugeot 404 Estate (1968 - 1979) Peugeot 505 (1979 - 1984) Peugeot 505 Estate (1979 - 1984) Renault R4 (1967 - 1980) Renault R5 (1980 - 1984) Renault R6 (1968 - 1980) Renault R10 (1967 - 1980) Renault R12 (1967 - 1977) Renault R18 (1978 - 1984) Toyota Hilux (1969 - 1986) Toyota Camry (1982 - 1986) Toyota Camry Liftback (1982 - 1986) |
◊ 2015-02-24 15:04 |
Thanks for translating. So across all the evidence so far, we have definite assembly during 1961-66 of: [Edit: .... list revised and updated in comment below] That list of post-Ford Willowvale assemblies is pretty spectacular .... -- Last edit: 2015-03-02 12:41:53 |
◊ 2015-02-24 15:45 |
Have entered this as 64+, made in Zimbabwe as best equivalent in the list. |
◊ 2015-02-27 23:50 |
Willowvale still exists. Link to "www.mazda.co.zw" According to the official site, it currently assembles the Mazda3 and the BT-50. |
◊ 2015-02-28 01:00 |
Noted that we might have to treat the Willowvale data carefully - eg Renault 12 can't be 1967-77 as 12 was not launched until Sept 69 |
◊ 2015-03-02 12:40 |
Update: can now add info from World Car Catalogue 1967, which lists Rhodesian assembly of: - UK Ford cars - Anglia, Cortina, Corsair, Zephyr Mk4 - CDN Ford cars - Falcon - US Ford (includes Lincoln and Mercury in general section heading) - listed but no model names given so I'm not taking it as solid reference There is no listing for D Ford. So across all the evidence so far, we have now definite assembly during 1961-67 of: - Anglia 105E Deluxe, - Zephyr Mk2-4 - may well include associated Zodiac versions as easy production change - Corsair - Cortina Mk1 (from 64, including GT) - Thames Trader - F-100 (presumably as pick-up) - Fordson Dexta tractor - Deutz F1M 414 tractor - Fairlane and Falcon (unclear which types/models but seems 61+ including [XK] and 64+; my guess is that these may have been co-ordinated with whatever Ford ZA was doing rather than directly US derived; by 1968 these were CDN-supplied, not US which would provide Commonwealth tariff reductions/exemptions) Indications of possible assembly of - Consul Classic, - Taunus P3 17M Availability of, but without strong confirmation for assembly: - Mustang - assorted end-50s/early-60s US models - eg Custom, Galaxie, Edsel Corsair, Starliner - Consul (presumably Mk2 204E) - other (earlier??) Taunus in RHD |
◊ 2015-03-02 14:11 |
@dsl: South Africa withdrew from the Commonwealth in 1961: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid#Commonwealth |
◊ 2015-03-02 14:53 |
Thanks - worth knowing. But I still think RHD US-based stuff such as Falcon was common product across eg NZ, Aus, ZA, Rhodesia so likely to be CDN-supplied with shared production sequences/updates. |
◊ 2015-03-02 14:55 |
At least all RHD Taunusses (correct plural?) were built in Amsterdam, I learned today |
◊ 2015-03-02 16:13 |
^ Not quite true - maybe until mid-60s, but after that there was ZA assembly as well - /vehicle.php?id=644619 . But that does not exclude continuing Amsterdam conversions for northern hemisphere - see discussions /vehicle.php?id=730421 and /vehicle.php?id=266948 . This 1972 UK 20M P7b RHD still intrigues me - http://www.winlinton.co.uk/ford20m.htm |
◊ 2015-03-02 17:33 |
@Robi - have compiled all the recent Ford-in-strange-places stuff on a forum page for reference - http://imcdb.opencommunity.be/forum_topic-8061-61230.html . Add/update as necessary to give a quick reference summary |
◊ 2018-02-09 23:04 |
Noted in passing that World Car Catalogue 1967 lists Triumph assembly in Rhodesia of Herald, 2000, Vitesse, and Spitfire. References may be a year or two out of date, as I think their listings had some degree of time lag. I haven't looked for other UK makes pre-UDI, so there may be others. |
◊ 2018-02-09 23:05 |
I strictly requesting to put at least colonial-era flag instead of Zimbabwean. |
◊ 2018-02-09 23:19 |
We don't have one to use - Zimbabwe is our best alternative. |
◊ 2018-11-04 19:25 |
I sadly lost my World Car Catalogue collection (1967-1985) to flood damage in 2016, but I recall much of the information in the "Assembly in other countries" section was either outdated or outright incorrect. The only other car assembly plant in Rhodesia was the BMC facility in the city of Umtali (now called Mutare) which began production 8 October, 1960. BMC continued assembly for two years after UDI using stockpiled CKD kits. In 1969, it fell under the same scheme that involved the Ford factory and eventually became Quest Motors. I would assume that the Triumph models mentioned were assembled by BMC and not Ford. -- Last edit: 2018-11-04 19:29:47 |
◊ 2018-11-04 20:24 |
@mazeltough - agree that the WCC listings can be woolly, so I try not to rely on them without supporting evidence from elsewhere if it can be found. But sometimes it's the best we've got. Details from 1967 WCC on Triumph list it as "Leyland Albion (Central Africa) Ltd" with a PO Box number, Southerton, Salisbury. So presumably an extra activity alongside truck assembly?? Direct linkages between Triumph and BMC only came with the BMC and Leyland merger in January 1968. However local arrangements in remote parts of the globe often created strange partnerships between what in home countries would be seen as rivals, so impossible to rule out unlikely marriages sometimes. WCC 1967 also lists a Rover venture - "The Rover Rhodesia (Private) Ltd" with another (different) PO Box number, Southerton, Salisbury. As both Rover and Triumph were part of Leyland UK at this point, I guess likely to be same factory. However the only listed item is Land Rover - no car ranges. |
◊ 2018-11-04 20:47 |
Then we have to create one, as we did for Austria-Hungary. Rhodesia would be historical correct. P.S. for the same reason I'm still for the project, to create the old German flags, the black-white-red one and also the swastica. The historic truth is, that all those years the black-red-gold flag was not only unusual, it was even forbidden. -- Last edit: 2018-11-04 20:56:03 |
◊ 2020-12-18 11:01 |
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◊ 2024-03-11 17:38 |
Reference article for story of Rhodesian builds (Autocar - 28 Feb 2024 p65) - full page capture, and enlarged text for legibility: |