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◊ 2007-05-21 22:19 |
Austin Shearline Hearse ?? |
◊ 2007-05-21 22:20 |
Or a Daimler by Woodall? |
◊ 2007-05-21 23:15 |
Looks more like a Bentley R-Type with Park-Ward body. |
◊ 2007-05-22 01:41 |
Can we see more of the front? Those front guards look Bentley but the radiator top doesn't look right in this view. |
◊ 2007-05-22 10:54 |
Nothing more is seen only this side shot of the hearse. My best match is along the lines of an Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire 3.4 litre based hearse. ![]() http://www.motorbase.com/profiles/vehicle/picture.ehtml?i=254;p=1910989437 Although the bodywork looks similar to Rolls/Bentley the radiator is too low suggesting a more angled appearance and less upright. The real clue I had that it could be Armstrong Siddeley was the design of the side-lights. These are nothing like Bentley and the Sapphire looks to be right. Comments please as the rear wheel covers is the feature I'm trying to match now. Confirmed Armstrong Siddeley Hearse..... ![]() http://www.hearseclub.co.uk/gallery/ -- Last edit: 2007-05-22 11:01:59 |
◊ 2007-05-22 11:02 |
Sunbar, you have it! I had been looking for Armstrong Siddeley but somehow had no matching image at hand. Thus I ended up with Bentley. But the door line, the moulds, shape of the rear wheel cover (except the cut-out, probably a bit younger), and even the bumper match perfectly with the AS Sapphire! |
◊ 2007-05-22 11:13 |
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◊ 2007-05-22 11:18 |
I just found some extra information: It is an Armstrong Siddeley Star Sapphire (1958-60) LWB chassis. Three (of 77) such vehicles got a hearse body. http://www.hearseclub.co.uk/gallery/ http://www.answers.com/topic/armstrong-siddeley-sapphire http://www.siddeley.com/gallery_morecars_03.html -- Last edit: 2007-05-22 11:19:42 |
◊ 2007-05-22 11:23 |
![]() A very attractive hearse (and unusual) I think. |
◊ 2007-05-22 11:34 |
Yes, indeed, I like it a lot! Would like it for my last ride, unless I find one of the specially converted Land-Rover Series 109" IIa Hearse that were sold to (I think) Libya in the 1960s. ![]() |
◊ 2007-05-22 11:49 |
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◊ 2007-12-20 20:00 |
Oh, there´s more than one 4x4 hearse around. See a Landy, for example, here: http://www.4x4funerals.co.uk/ The other ones that were mentioned to be sold to Lybia were made by Pilcher-Greene of UK, while the silver Land Rover shown on the website was made by Foley of England. But back to topic: The bodywork of this Armstrong Siddeley has been carried out by Alpe & Saunders Coachbuilders of Kew Gardens, London, UK. So I think we´re done with this one? ![]() |
◊ 2007-12-25 21:04 |
Do you know anything of the whereabouts of these hearses? |
◊ 2008-02-11 13:04 |
No, sorry, I never heard of a surviving Pilcher-Greene Landy hearse at all. |
◊ 2008-02-12 20:14 |
Being Land-Rovers they will probably still be with the first owner -- they are in their best years being just a little over 40! ![]() |
◊ 2011-01-28 22:39 |
It is actually a 346 Sapphire (3.4 liter) long wheelbase chassis version, onto which a specialist firm (Alpe & Saunders? in London W1) built the Hearse body. The 346 Sapphire car was built from late 1953 to early 1959, although in the last year or so only the lwb Limousine was produced, whereas the normal saloon had been discontinued to make way for the uprated Star Sapphire saloon. The rear wing + spat + rear lamp are from this later 1958-1960 Star Sapphire model. This particular car has now been exported to Australia and, after a complete restoration, is now a working vehicle for a long established Funeral firm in the Melbourne area. It is likely to be the only such survivor. 381 of the lwb chassis vehicles were produced by the factory from 1955 to 1955, of which it is thought that around 150 survive in various states of roadworthyness. Gary Hall Bad Homburg Armstrong Siddeley Group Germany |
◊ 2011-02-04 11:39 |
Hi With regards to the body work, this is NOT an Alpe & Saunders, it is built by Woodall Nicholson. Without a reg number on view, how can we be sure it is the one that is now in Australia?? I know that hearse since the 1990s and have pictures of it in use and there has never been no mention of it being used in the film.Oh and it is NOT the only survivor.... |
◊ 2011-04-05 00:19 |
The Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire Hearse is built on a long wheelbase chassis with coachwork by Woodall Nicholson of Halifax Yorkshire, she was deliveredto my father for our funeral business, Edgar Duton & Sons Ltd of Chester in July 1958 at a cost of £1800 pounds sterling with syncromesh gearbox and no power steering, she was used with a matching fleet of three Sapphire limousines for many years until the mid 1970s when she was sold to a funeral director in Birkenhead. In 1986 she returned to the market and I purchased her to save her being banger raced, she was sold on to G Hall and co of Knighton. Powis, She was sold again two years ago to Selwyn Allen funeral directors at Mount Waverley, Melbourne, Australia. She was registered 175 HFM and retained that number until she went to Australia.The spats covering the rear wheels were altered to the Star Sapphire pattern with the lower cutaway in 1962.In all other aspects she is Mk2 346. She was and still is a superb motor. Recently we have found a sister to her in the form of an identical Sapphire Hearse, One owner from new first registered 1959, 5359 IA a County Antrim Number, she is in our garage undergoing a ground up restoration, see pictures on flicker or siddeley forum, she will join our two Sapphire limousines when restoration is finished. There is also another identical heares being resorted in the midlands, I have tried to track down the other Sapphire hearses, 22 built on lwb chassis and three on saloon chassis, but all the others defy being found. We currently run Bentley Brooklands Hearse and limousines and Phantom VI hearse and two PV limousines. Steve Dutton Dutton & Hallmark funerals -- Last edit: 2011-04-05 22:54:40 |
◊ 2012-05-04 18:42 |
Something more to add to these excellent comments. From Link to "books.google.es" Car Number 347362, a Hearse, registered 175HFM, was sold via Appleyards of Leeds on 7th July 1958 to Edgar Dutton & Ltd Funeral Directors. The car is now in the possession of Mr. Geoff Hall of Knighton, Powys, Wales, also an undertaker. The car was used in the film The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain.. See previous^ comment from user stoakphantoms. -- Last edit: 2012-05-04 18:43:21 |
◊ 2022-02-03 19:26 |
Woodall Nicholson called this model the 'Superb'. Here is how it was advertised back in the day: ![]() |