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◊ 2007-10-15 14:46 |
I know its rather small but I think its well visible but cannot determine what it could be. I have eliminated (I think) Fordson, Morris, Austin, Commer and Bedford. Although the grille looks like an Austin Tilley the headlamps are wrong. Will obviously remove, or move to the movie comments, if it cannot be found but I think its probably rare. Enlarged view... ![]() -- Last edit: 2007-10-15 14:49:27 |
◊ 2007-10-15 17:14 |
Jowett Bradford van, 1952 |
◊ 2007-10-15 18:10 |
Roof shape and windscreen depth/header rail is different on the Jowett. Also the doors on the Jowett are front hinged and these are hinged at the rear. http://www.sharpos-world.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?album=356&pos=0 |
◊ 2007-10-15 18:27 |
I have looked around and also ended with the Austin Ten Light Utility Truck 'Tilly'. Possibly it is a converted Tilly (pick-up to van plus bigger lights). http://www.austintilly.nl/EN/home.html http://www.tillyregister.com/register1.html Anyhow, you found a rare van. ![]() |
◊ 2007-10-15 20:02 |
Sorry, Alexander, it isn't a Tilly. This is a factory Austin van made immediately before and after World War 2; I'm not sure whether it was based on the 8 or 10 h.p. car, but I think it was the 8. Unfortunately I can't find any evidence ... |
◊ 2007-10-15 20:11 |
I think the Austin Tilley is not possible even converted... the cab (side window and wiper) is not right. The grille may actually be missing (or covered to maintain the radiator temperature), but the bonnet and remainder looks un-modified to me..... ![]() |
◊ 2007-10-15 20:32 |
![]() It would be good to find a picture of an example. I can only think they must have been a rare van even after WWII. |
◊ 2007-10-15 21:12 |
I cannot find any picture of the van, not even in books. As the wipers were bottom mounted on the Austin Ten Series G/YG 'Tilly' this must be a factory made van version. The rest (apart from the lights) matches with the 'Tilly' I would say, even the side windows. The image is slightly distorted, as the Dauphine shows here: /vehicle_78643-Leyland-PD2-RTL.html Perhaps you have more luck in finding a picture. |
◊ 2007-10-16 11:52 |
I will continue to search for one. It may be possible to find one eventually. ![]() I guess we agree now that it is an Austin. The bonnet, grille and front wings confirm this. |
◊ 2007-10-16 12:19 |
The only picture found so far, a side view but it confirms some details. Door hinges are seen and handle, plus the pronounced step or join between the door and rear bodywork and so on. ![]() Identified as a 1948 Austin 8 delivery van. (Listed previously as 'Austin Eight' on IMCDb.) source.... http://library.christchurch.org.nz/heritage/photos/collection22/02304.asp Well done chris40, congratulations. -- Last edit: 2007-10-16 12:37:44 |
◊ 2007-10-16 13:44 |
Wonderful! Splendid teamwork! Now we have our first Austin Eight van. ![]() Interesting to see this Welch placename for a New-Zeeland suburb. |
◊ 2007-10-16 14:22 |
Yes, a good result.... I'm constantly amazed how movies are a source of rare or unusual vehicles, even as background vehicles. Probably some never got to be preserved because they were too ordinary? |
◊ 2007-10-16 16:07 |
Another clearer picture of the Austin Eight van...sadly in very poor condition. According to Link to "www.motorbase.com" there are probably only nine left in existence. The unique (for Austin) headlight position is the same as in the movie. ![]() |
◊ 2007-10-16 17:04 |
![]() ![]() ![]() Well done everyone, especially Sunbar for finding the evidence I couldn't! Actually I wouldn't be surprised to learn this van didn't sell very well against the small Ford and Morris vans of the time; the Eight wasn't the most successful model of Austin. -- Last edit: 2007-10-16 17:04:51 |
◊ 2009-09-10 10:54 |
A couple of these very rare vans now appear on "Classic Commercial Motor Vehicles" http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p185012956/h30eb55f5#h30eb55f5 (link updated) -- Last edit: 2015-06-27 12:04:08 |