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1978 Princess 2200 HL [ADO71]

1978 Princess 2200 [ADO71] in Top Gear, Non-fiction TV, 2002-2015 Ep. 10.07

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin:

1978 Princess 2200 HL [ADO71]

Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

Comments about this vehicle

Author	Message
G-MANN ◊ 2007-11-26 17:19	Make LEYLAND CARS Year of manufacture 1979 Model PRINCESS 2200 HL Engine size(CC) 2227
TheHeartbreakKid15 ◊ 2007-11-26 18:36	Seeing as it's registered as a Leyland, shouldn't it listed as one?
G-MANN ◊ 2007-11-26 18:44	See this page: /vehicle_28135-Princess-2-ADO71-1978.html
Voyska ◊ 2008-02-10 00:11	It can't be a '79 because that would make it a Leyland Princess '2'! Princess '2' had the "Princess" badge removed from the grille and C-pillars. It has to be at least an early '78 like how James said it was.
paul4990 ◊ 2008-10-05 01:47	R.I.P. Leyland Princess 2200HL 1.02.1979-1.02.2008 (29 Years old at death)
antp ◊ 2008-10-05 11:56	They destroyed it in the show? What a shame
TheHeartbreakKid15 ◊ 2009-08-15 15:16	The vehicle details for DAD 352T are: Date of Liability 01 02 2010 Date of First Registration 01 02 1979 Year of Manufacture 1979 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 2227CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status SORN Not Due Vehicle Colour YELLOW Vehicle Type Approval null it's still on the road apparently
Sunbar ◊ 2009-08-24 13:06	The Princess 2 range was launched in July 1978. As stated before by the trim, this is an earlier Princess (1976-78) that was probably unsold and registered late as a 1979 MY car. The DVLA would not necessarily have the right year of manufacture. -- Last edit: 2009-08-24 13:08:11
kudos ◊ 2012-03-19 17:20	I suggest we replace the current main pic with this one: Extras:
G-MANN ◊ 2012-03-26 21:51	kudos wrote I suggest we replace the current main pic with this one I don't think so. It may be larger but the resolution certainly isn't any better. In fact it looks worse.
dsl ◊ 2017-02-10 14:47	I suspect 2 cars used - the water-filled one does not have Princess badges on C-pillar and may be a bit yellower in colour than the authentic Sandglow shade, so was probably a scrapyard clunker which died a watery death. The genuine DAD 352T still exists and is displayed at the National Motor Museum, Beaulieu. A Vanguards 1:43 model VA10208 is due later this year. Corgi's blurb says "James defended the Princess, quite rightly, as the most interesting and forward looking car BL ever made", which is a bit of a WTF statement.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2017-02-10 15:39	Perhaps not so much as you think, considering which cars were introduced by them. Possibly the only vehicle with more opportunities open to it would have been the Rover SD1, or maybe the original XJ6. The Marina is totally outclassed by its supposed competitors, even the Avenger, and the Allegro looks like a kid's effort compared with the Golf, which was only 1 year later. By the time that the LM10/LM11 Maestro/Montego cars came in they were hardly as forward looking as was the 18/22 in 1975, they were more an "of the time just like anyone else's" vehicle. The cars labelled as Triumph and Rover were no more than badge engineered Hondas, and the final Rover 200/400/600/800 were too late and too ordinary. The 75 got a bit of a following amongst the pension book set, and the MGF didn't even make an impression, let alone a dent against the more modern Japanese sports cars. -- Last edit: 2017-02-10 16:14:45
dsl ◊ 2017-02-10 20:00	Not fundamentally disagreeing with that summary, although some shades of difference - I'd rate the Metro/Mastro/Montego as up to the standard of the time, so a useful advance from their predecessors which were substandard. The Honda-based stuff was pretty good - probably better than Ford's market leaders and with the 200s at least was likeable with some character. The 75 was designed with the objective of being the best front wheel drive car in the world with full BMW determination alongside Rover's expertise, and before everything imploded, it probably briefly succeeded. But I just don't see what positive can be claimed for the Princess apart from not being as bad as the Marina or Allegro. It was just treading water (no pun intended) with groggy styling which looked mildly interesting for about half an hour and should have had a hatch from the start.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2017-02-10 20:38	Probably the fault lay with the non styling of the original 1800, a truly excellent family barge let down by Issigonis' over the top ideas about how a car should look if designed by him. My Dad had three of them, with a short interval with a Maxi 1750 before the last one. They were ideal for our needs and able to transport five adults and a Sprite Major wherever we wanted to go in reasonable economy and were easy enough to work on although clutch replacement was a bit boring. Following the relative failure of the earlier car to sell, I think BL overcompensated with the 18/22 design, trying to make it something it wasn't. -- Last edit: 2017-02-10 20:40:37
holden nut ◊ 2018-05-01 03:51	Jeremy: and he's bought a piece of cheese. You've bought a Princess mate. James: I have. Jeremy: Lets look at the interior, Brown Brown. James: Brown was a 70's colour, this is a 1978 car. -- Last edit: 2018-05-10 06:58:05

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