Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin:
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2022-09-16 20:10 |
Hillman or Humber? Predecessor to /vehicle_197016-Humber-Snipe-10cwt-1947.html |
◊ 2022-09-16 22:44 |
Can't find any reference to Humber vans before WW2. Doesn't mean they didn't exist, but makes me think Hillman more likely. |
◊ 2022-09-17 13:14 |
Hillman was my guess also based on the grille and larger sidelights. Possibly a late 1936 model 14 or 16 saloon chassis, as the basis for the vans, if they exist perhaps. The badge probably says 'United' as either the van builder or Newspaper distributed service? However the front wing shape and headlamp mounts don't match anything I have found for Hillman. |
◊ 2022-09-17 13:26 |
1935/6 Dodge? |
◊ 2022-09-17 13:30 |
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◊ 2022-09-17 13:49 |
The front wings, sidelights and headlamp mounts are the same as the Dodge 15cwt van, the grille is less certain and bumper has been changed. ![]() ![]() Also here seen only from the side as a 1936 Dodge 15cwt Evening Standard newspaper van /vehicle_1037835-Dodge-15cwt-1936.html About 75% sure its the Dodge. |
◊ 2022-09-17 14:03 |
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/my-ancestors-london--339599628130542753/ Prewar Humbers, I think. -- Last edit: 2022-09-17 14:04:15 |
◊ 2022-09-17 14:09 |
Shown as in use in a 1949 film, these vans from the 30s must have taken a tremendous battering over the previous 12 or 14 years. Even by the early 50s, vehicles were in short supply, who knows what might have been done in a “make do and mend” repair, or several? -- Last edit: 2022-09-17 15:18:02 |
◊ 2022-09-17 15:24 |
Almost perfect match for book photos of 1937-38 Dodge 15cwt, including a line-up of 10 brand new 1938 newspaper vans for "The Star" (with consecutive FGU 347/348/349 etc plates) - both are Stevens-Stratten picture albums of which I think jfs knows at least one. Shapes look right *windscreen, bonnet, valley between bonnet and raised wings), both photos have two headlights, but mounted same as above, sidelight pods on wing tops as above, and same flat sheet bumper with slight curving towards ends. Grille looks similar - I won't say identical as above slightly blurred and top obscured by badge but book pics both have central divider and thin close-packed horizontal bars, and there are no additional lights low on front wing (as apparently seen above unless they're reflections??). So I vote Dodge - maybe sold also as Commer or Hillman or whatever - but this is the root(!) vehicle. |
◊ 2022-09-17 15:28 |
Dodge UK in the 1930s had no connection with Commer/Hillman etc, AFAIK.![]() A - Dodge and subject van have a flatted area on the inner side of the wing, B - Humber wing blends into the bonnet side. C - Dodge and subject van have a horizontal headlamp mount to the bonnet side. D - Humber has a slanted headlamp mount to the wings. Added to this top surround of the Dodge grille is curved and similar to the movie vehicle but the Humber has a definite angled section on both sides. -- Last edit: 2022-09-17 15:29:52 |
◊ 2022-09-17 15:46 |
No direct connection with Rootes until the closure of the Kew plant in 1967, and production was transferred to the Commer/Karrier plant at Dunstable. Chrysler, hence Dodge, did not gain full control of Commer until 1973, and did not start badging Commers as Dodge until 1976. (Stevens-Stratten not me). -- Last edit: 2022-09-17 15:57:16 |