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1931 Rolls-Royce unknown Drophead Saloon

1931 Rolls-Royce unknown in 日本独立 (Independence of Japan), Movie, 2020 IMDB

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: UK

1931 Rolls-Royce unknown Drophead Saloon

Pos: 00:23:07 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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Jnglmpera JP

2022-12-18 14:37

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A "1931 Rolls Royce Drophead Saloon" according to Maeda Auto.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-18 16:11

Never heard of a drophead saloon. 1931 means P2, the front bumper looks rather American. Springfield?

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-18 17:01

Surely not, please. A saloon is a closed car, a drophead is an open car. The nearest they should ever approach is a saloon with a sunroof, known as a sliding head saloon at one time. This thing looks more like an “All weather tourer” to me.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-18 17:05

Car producer : Rolls Royce
Model: 40/50 Phantom II O2 Series Continental All-Weather Tourer by Hooper
Year: 1929-1936
Type: Tourer

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Note: - I am not saying that the subject vehicle is exactly this one. This is to show what an “All weather tourer” looks like.

-- Last edit: 2022-12-18 17:08:38

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-18 19:33

I think I’ve gone about as far as I can go on this coachwork, doesn’t match Brewster either.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-19 11:02

Please be advised that I have asked the RREC about this car, and await a response.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-19 12:43

I have received a response from the RREC, asking if we know the chassis#. Any information from Maeda Auto please?


-- Last edit: 2022-12-19 12:44:02

Jnglmpera JP

2022-12-19 12:57

johnfromstaffs wrote I have received a response from the RREC, asking if we know the chassis#. Any information from Maeda Auto please?

The best I have regarding details is the link I first posted of the vehicle, which give very little beyond photos. Beyond that I'm afraid you and/or RREC will have to call them or send an email to the address listed on their contact page... http://www.maeda-auto.com/contact/index.html

-- Last edit: 2022-12-19 12:58:11

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-20 20:00

The RREC say that they are unable to help without a chassis#.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-21 21:13

I am at present trying another source.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-22 03:24

Link to "www.maeda-auto.com"

There is a suggestion that it’s a 20/25. I await further contact.

-- Last edit: 2022-12-22 08:33:14

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-22 11:29

Neill Fraser, from the Rolls-Royce and Bentley Cars website, commented as follows: -

I am far from an expert about the coachwork of pre-war Rolls-Royce. The notable features appear to be
All weather body, making it rare on a R-R;
Both front and rear doors front-hinged, unusual and suggestive of an early date eg 1931;
Wings with side valances (later than 1931) with raised edge swages (quality expensive body);
Exposed door hinges (unlikely to be Hooper Gurney Nutting or T&M, could be F&W, Barker or PW);
Running boards separate from wings;
Double front bumper suggests either US origin or delivery to India;
Swaging below the side windows suggests an earlier date, and possibly a saloon with fixed roof which might account for the unusual description;
The windscreen is evocative of Vanden Plas tourers of mid-2930s.
I’m tempted to say that some elements of this body are younger than others and its open configuration may not be original.
But, as I said, I’m no expert on R-R coachwork.

My response: -

Neill Fraser Thank you very much. No wonder I was stumped! If you don’t mind, I’ll pass this on to IMCDB.

-- Last edit: 2022-12-22 11:37:44

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-12-23 09:03

Disclaimer from Neill saying he’s not an expert, fair enough, but he seems to have compiled a sensible argument.

I still say that it’s an all weather tourer, by the way. Drophead saloon is like saying chassisless chassis.

-- Last edit: 2022-12-23 09:06:55

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