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◊ 2006-01-16 01:20 |
Ford..Granada ...or Consul estate.? |
◊ 2006-01-16 02:44 |
I would sy Granada. But I don't know if it had this name in Germany and had a different one in the UK. |
◊ 2006-01-16 02:56 |
I would vote for granada too |
◊ 2006-01-16 10:25 |
Granada MKI estate. If it was in Germany, it would be a Granada Turnier. |
◊ 2007-10-16 22:45 |
id say consul cos of the hub caps |
◊ 2007-10-17 09:40 |
I'm with ady on this one, but a side view isn't really 100% conclusive; we'd need to see the front or some badging. Oddly enough, Junkman, when trying (unsuccessfully) to find evidence, I found a French spares site which referred to 'Consul Turnier' but 'Granada Estate'. |
◊ 2007-10-17 12:19 |
French, uh well. All Ford (D) estates were called 'Turnier'. There is no exception to this rule. This was a registered trademark of Ford there and for a long time the German Ford wagons even carried a 'Turnier' badge on the tailgate (not sure with which model/year this ceased). The word 'Estate' in conjunction with cars is generally unheard of in German. In England it is the generic term for a wagon and to my knowledge was not a trademark of Ford. Ford (UK) wagons never carried an 'Estate' badge. So in Germany, these were 'Turnier', regardless if they were Granadas, Consuls, Taunuses (Taunii?) or Escorts. -- Last edit: 2007-10-17 12:20:51 |
◊ 2007-10-17 13:55 |
I don't think cars should have "Estate" or "Wagon" added on the end unless it's officially part of the name. -- Last edit: 2007-10-17 13:56:00 |
◊ 2007-10-17 15:09 |
Turnier is still being used for the Mondeo estate in Germany. I think this tradition started with the P2 back in 1957. http://www.ford.de/ns7/mondeo_neu/mon_aussen/mon03/-/-/-/-# |
◊ 2007-10-17 15:24 |
As far as I know the word Estate as part of the model name was only used for the Jaguar X-Type Estate and some Austins (Montego, Allegro, Marina, and Mini Clubman). Else it is just a description of the body style. Here is a list of specific names used for estates/wagons: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombinationskraftwagen |
◊ 2007-10-17 16:05 |
Estate didn't appear on the cars' badges, but would've definitely been part of the discription in ads, publicity material and elsewhere. |
◊ 2007-10-17 18:06 |
We usually included Estate, Break, etc. as it was used everywhere with the name of the car, even if not badged on the car itself. Is it so important what is on the car badge? (especially since the previous 120000 vehicles of the site used the logic that I mentioned...) There are so many things that do not appear on badges (some cars do not even have their model name on badge), I do not see why this becomes just now so important. By the way, I do not recall that "Turnier" was on the badge either ![]() -- Last edit: 2007-10-17 18:11:15 |
◊ 2007-10-18 21:24 |
I do. I have one here. |
◊ 2010-07-15 22:08 |
All trim elements indicate Consul with no doubt (wheels, any side and chassis member strips). Continental Consul to compare: http://files.capri.pl/library/folders/consul/mk3-d-1973-12/07.l.jpg -- Last edit: 2010-07-15 22:10:00 |
◊ 2010-07-16 00:46 |
Yes a straightforward (in UK branding) Consul estate in L trim, probably 1974 because of the hubcap style. |
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