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1960 ARE AMX-13 Chaffee M24 Turret

1960 ARE AMX-13 Chaffee M24 Turret in Dempsey & Makepeace, TV Series, 1985-1986 IMDB Ep. 3.05

Class: Others, Military armored vehicle — Model origin: FR

1960 ARE AMX-13 Chaffee M24 Turret

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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3loader RU

2010-03-20 20:05

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3loader RU

2010-03-24 10:16

Scorpion ?

3loader RU

2010-03-24 20:26

Any royal army fans on the site?

Sunbar UK

2010-03-24 20:44

I'm no expert with military vehicles but its not a Alvis Scorpion based tank I believe.

Closest I can find is a French GIAT Industries AMX-13 Light Tank. What its doing being pulled on a British trailer/tractor unit I don't know (if it is French?).

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=175

Any military vehicle experts please comment??


By the way...

Its British Army (or just 'Army').

'Royal' is applied very selectively for historical purposes. So its Royal Navy and Royal Air Force but not Royal Army. ;)

3loader RU

2010-03-24 20:49

Thanks!
So we still need expert.

3loader RU

2010-03-26 01:56

Sunbar wrote

Its British Army (or just 'Army').

'Royal' is applied very selectively for historical purposes. So its Royal Navy and Royal Air Force but not Royal Army. ;)


Yes, right! That exactly what they (D&M) talking about in this episode. I just forgot.
So, maybe, just call it Alvis unknown? Or Alvis FV100 series?

-- Last edit: 2010-03-26 01:57:22

Sunbar UK

2010-03-26 10:45

But its not an Alvis IMHO.

The details match the ARE AMX-13 Light Tank except for the turret I believes...
/vehicle_109445-ARE-AMX-13-75-Modele-51-2F-1952.html

So ARE unknown.

jcb UK

2010-03-26 11:11

Fairly sure its an American made M24 Chaffee , late war tank also used by the British , though this must be museum piece or private collectors tank by this time.

-- Last edit: 2010-03-26 12:13:13

Sunbar UK

2010-03-26 14:43

The small upper track wheels appear to be different however the Cadillac M24 Chaffee has only three per side whereas the D&M tank (and the ARE AMX-13 Light Tank) both have four?

The hatch detail on thumbnail No.2 appears to match the detail here...
/vehicle_109445-ARE-AMX-13-75-Modele-51-2F-1952.html

and the turret is mounted well towards the back(?)-thumbnail No.3- not like the centrally mounted M24 Chaffee.

-- Last edit: 2010-03-26 14:44:38

3loader RU

2010-04-02 23:25

So it is ARE AMX unknown ? Wheelbase and tracks identical.

-- Last edit: 2010-04-02 23:25:12

jcb UK

2010-04-14 09:36

Right , I've solved it through help from people at HMVF website , If you said M24 Chaffee OR AMX 13 your're right ! Its an AMX 13 Chaffee.
Some models of the AMX 13 were fitted with turrets from M24 Chaffees .
If you google AMX 13 Chaffee you will see one or two of these mongrels!




-- Last edit: 2010-04-14 09:45:54

Sunbar UK

2010-04-14 10:29

Congratulations JCB :king:

1960 AMX 13 CHAFFEE

Pour remplacer les chars M 24 Chaffee à bout de souffle, l'AMX envisage de monter la tourelle du M 24 sur le châssis du char léger de 13 tonnes. L'adaptation nécessite la mise en place d'une cale entre la tourelle et la caisse.

Le prototype est testé à partir de 1957 et une commande de 150 exemplaires est notifiée en 1960.

source: Link to "www.chars-francais.net"

jcb UK

2010-04-14 10:54

Its being bugging me this one!
Apparently rare , only 150 were built for the French Army in the later stages of the Algerian war so what this one is doing in UK is a mystery. Or did the TV producers splash out and send a Thornycroft Antar tank transporter to France !! ho ho :)

-- Last edit: 2010-04-14 11:15:08

Sunbar UK

2010-04-14 11:32

Bovington Tank Museum was the most obvious place it could be but its not listed on their site so perhaps one exists in either another museum or private collection in the UK?

3loader RU

2010-04-18 23:47

Good work, JCB!

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