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130rapid ◊ 2011-02-05 13:25	For sure it's part of "Demon szybkości" (The Speed Demon) Polish road safety short movie made in 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-K5NX9y6xY
fck ◊ 2011-02-05 13:45	Indeed.
natred ◊ 2011-02-21 09:26	Its a mercedes ponton 6 cylinder model either a 219 or a 220. Impossible to tell which.
130rapid ◊ 2012-08-29 21:33	1956/mid-1957 220S with sunroof [W180.011].
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-29 21:38	What shall "Siebendach" mean?
tore-40 ◊ 2012-08-29 22:04	Seven roofs
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-29 22:08	The correct plural would be "sieben Dächer" And not plausible either.
tore-40 ◊ 2012-08-29 22:15	And it makes a loooong car. How about Schiebedach? Or something like Szyberdach in Polish. -- Last edit: 2012-08-29 22:24:20
andrepa ◊ 2012-08-30 16:57	Siebendach = Pagoda Link to "de.wikipedia.org" -- Last edit: 2012-08-30 17:01:16
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-30 20:15	Inappropriate here, too. a) This is a Pagode: /vehicles_make-Mercedes-Benz_model-W113.html and not the car here b) Seven roofs, resp.seven dragons on the roofs was exlusively for the emperor: Link to "www.photoworldwide.de" - but we don't have an emperor's car here. This is the emperor's car: /vehicles_make-Mercedes-Benz_model-W100.html
tore-40 ◊ 2012-08-30 20:45	andrepa, ingo: You really go into it.... [dead external link to a smiley]
Tönz ◊ 2012-08-30 20:55	It can't be a roof like a Sieb (sieve), can it?
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-30 20:56	No, the Golde-sunroofs were always good quality.
andrepa ◊ 2012-08-31 12:40	ingo wrote The correct plural would be "sieben Dächer" And not plausible either. in names rule of correct plural often is omitted: 2 door sedan 4 wheel drive 2/4 stroke engine Zweibein Stativ Allrad 8 Rad Panzer Fünfgangschaltung but Fünfgängemenü Herr Siebenacker ; Hundertwasser ; even singular can be shortened: Steinbrück fractions + plural in one word: Halbkette and not Halbeketten -- Last edit: 2012-08-31 12:44:41
antp ◊ 2012-08-31 14:04	In English I think a "-" is required in these cases
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-31 14:36	antp wrote In English I think a "-" is required in these cases In German, too. But not always. In fact the question of capitalization and uncapitalization, especially of the many, for the German language typical compound terms is a daily drama. For the writer, but even more for the reader (every day in my job -corresponding and communicating the whole day- I have to read incredible painful sentences...) The very most Germans are not really fit in that (very often in the rest of orthography neither), not even those with a high school grade. Even people with an university degree are stumbling. And it became worse every year. Well, but you have to admit, that correct German is really difficult. Although I'm quite fit with that, sometimes I hesitate, too, before I write something.
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-31 14:37	tore-40 wrote Or something like Szyberdach in Polish. In our modern times it would rather be a "Cyberdach"
130rapid ◊ 2012-08-31 20:30	ingo wrote What shall "Siebendach" mean? Correct to 'Schiebedach' as http://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Kategorie:W120/W121 claims. -- Last edit: 2012-08-31 20:32:58
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-31 21:31	Thanks 130rapid - but there are good reason to continue the nitpicking! The correct German naming of the different sunroof-versions is an absolute topic for that. - in fact this above a "Faltschiebedach", because it's folding, when you slide it. - the abbreviation "Faltdach" (folding roof) is more common. - the Citroen 2 CV has a "Rolldach", not a "Faltdach", because the cloth roof is rolling and not folding - at a "Faltdach" the back window and the C-pillar were not folded down. In that case we have a - "Klappdach" ("Cabrioverdeck" is common), the roof of a Convertible. In the last years the English name "Softtop" is used, too. (the discussion, what is a "Cabriolet/Convertible" and what is a "Roadster" is something different) - A foldable metallen Convertible-roof, as the Mercedes SLK and the Peugeot Cabriolets have, is not a "Faltdach", it's the second version of a "Klappdach"or a "klappbares Dach" - the primitive tarpaulins, some roofless Roadsters have, are named "Persenning", an old sailor's term. - the term "Schiebedach" (sliding roof, "SD" in advertises) is always used wrong! It's only correct for the classic Peugeot-construction, where you slide the roof back (Peugeot 404 for example). So the common term "Stahlschiebedach", SSD is always wrong, too. - it's debatable, if the term "elektrisches (Stahl-)Schiebebach", eSSD is correct Does the electric motor slides or cranks the roof back? - the other -much more common- construction, where you crank the sunroof, has to be called "Kurbeldach" (crank-open sunroof) Either "Stahlkurbeldach", when it's from sheet steel or "Glaskurbeldach", when it's from glass (as common since the 90ies). - a "Stahlkurbelhubdach", (SKHD in the ads) was a rarity, introduced for the Borgward Isabella. The K 70 was the only Volkswagen, which had it in the early 70ies: a crank-open sunroof, whose back edge could be lifted up. But only lifted up, without going back. There are also some cars with a "Glaskurbelhubdach", but I don't know, which ones. - when the sunroof opens and goes back over and not inside the roof (at the Opel Tigra for example, but an aftersales market part, too), it's called "Spoilerdach" - the primitive "Hubdach" (more "Glashubdach") came up in the 80ies, the first glass sunroof, which only could be lifted up. It's disappeared nowadays. - but be aware: the liftable roof of a Campmobile, for example the Westfalia Camper, is also a "Hubdach" Do you got me? I'm not even sure, if there's something missing... -- Last edit: 2012-08-31 21:40:01
andrepa ◊ 2012-09-02 04:17	if the "Faltschiebedach" would be wider for about 10cm, and going back all the way to the trunk, so that only sidewalls remain the cars designation has to be changed to Cabriolimousine there never has been such a Mercedes? but Opel Olympia for e.g. Mercedes Bus with canvas roof rolling or sliding back is called "Allwetterbus" -- Last edit: 2012-09-02 04:18:40
Ingo ◊ 2012-09-02 11:02	@andrepa: no, AFAIK only Opel has used the name "Cabriolimousine" and had these wider roofs. Mercedes, Volkswagen, too, only have chosen the Faltdächer, made by Golde (later Rockwell-Golde). I don't know, where Daimler Benz let manufacture the Cabriolet-roofs back then, but those for VW were all made by Karmann (as the whole assembling of all Convertible-versions, too). But Karmann also has built just Convertible-roofs for other brands, which were delivered to them and finally assembled there. -- Last edit: 2012-09-02 11:02:42
andrepa ◊ 2012-09-02 15:55	at ingo as far as i know, there have been Cabrio Limousine of the Borgward group, as a retired manager ordered prewar Hansa 2000 Cabrio Limousine http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3296/3041245394_3d2cc5a1b4_z.jpg and so called BORGWARD GOLIATH GP 900 CABRIO LIMO in USA sedan sunroof http://www.87thscale.info/andrepa.htm /vehicle_528691-Opel-Olympia-Rekord-Cabrio-Limousine-1954.html Opel P4 prewar Link to "www.1zu87.com" Morris Minor Traveller Link to "oldtimer-veranstaltung.de" -- Last edit: 2012-09-02 16:20:32
andrepa ◊ 2012-09-02 15:57	another folding top is the Falt-Caravan http://pics.imcdb.org/0is528/aa00hdd8.742.jpg or is this one a Hubdach type? -- Last edit: 2012-09-02 15:59:02
andrepa ◊ 2012-09-02 20:06	ingo wrote In German, too. But not always. In fact the question of capitalization and uncapitalization, especially of the many, for the German language typical compound terms is a daily drama. semantic conotation of compound words becoming quite obviousely in politicians speech 020912 Claudia Roth making artificial break inclusive characteristically headshake: "Die Findung der spitzen ... Kandidaten." -- Last edit: 2012-09-02 20:08:42
Ingo ◊ 2012-09-03 20:45	Vote for her and get more of that.

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