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Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183]

Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183] in La proie, Movie, 2011

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Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183]

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Ingo ◊ 2011-08-18 15:32	VW or Bombardier, which version is/was in use in the France army?
kudos ◊ 2011-08-18 17:13	Renault TRM 4000 too.
-- ◊ 2011-08-18 19:57	Yes, but no closer view available for it.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2011-08-18 20:35	ingo wrote VW or Bombardier, which version is/was in use in the France army? Neither, but Citroen did enter a version of the Iltis into a French army competition, which was won by the G-Wagen-based Peugeot P4. Quote In the late 1970s the French government decided it was time to replace their aging fleet of Hotchkiss Jeeps and like Germany they called out for offers. No French company had a fitting vehicle on hand and designing one from the ground up would have been too expensive so they worked with the manufacturers that did have something to offer. Peugeot teamed up with Mercedes, put a 504 engine in the G-Wagen and called it the P4, Saviem put a Renault 20 engine in Fiat’s Campagnola and dubbed it the TRM500 and Citroen built the C44, a Volkswagen 183 powered by a CX engine. In the end the P4 was awarded the contract and the other two projects were scrapped but a team entered a C44 in the 1981 Paris-Dakar. It did not finish the race. Link to "en.wikipedia.org" -- Last edit: 2011-08-18 20:53:31
blue_thunder ◊ 2011-08-18 20:41	Well, very good catch, but you mixed sth. up. The Peugeot P4 was based on the Austrian built Puch/Mercedes G. http://www.careos.com/pics/BiblioPHO/net/p4_1986.jpg The "french" VW Iltis is a Citroen C44 http://www.histomobile.com/dvd_histomobile/usa/10/1981_Citroen_C44.htm But finally you solved that mystery
-- ◊ 2011-08-18 20:44	He answered Ingo's question regarding what vehicles were in use by the French army, he didn't mean to imply the Iltis pictured here is actually a Peugeot P4.
blue_thunder ◊ 2011-08-18 20:46	a lot of confusion, but with his posting he still solved that mystery, what kind of car that is
-- ◊ 2011-08-18 20:48	No, because the Citroen C44 was just a concept which never entered mass production.
Jale ◊ 2011-08-18 21:02	Maybe one of the Belgian Army cars? They have 2.500 from Bombardier - http://www.reocities.com/spoelstra.geo/vw183/index.htm
130rapid ◊ 2011-08-18 21:12	I think it's the best trace, Jale.
JB ◊ 2014-03-05 02:02	Erreur: Pour moi, il s'agit d'un Volkswagen et non d'un Bombardier parce que l'armée française a été en possession de Volkswagen Iltis. Explication: Outre les armées allemandes, belges et canadiennes, les Forces Françaises à Berlin (FFB) ont été équipées de ce véhicule, en particulier les pelotons Reconnaissance Orientation Commando (ROC) chargés d'effectuer les patrouilles zonales le long du mur de Berlin. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Iltis Quelques photos par ici: http://www.informatiquebridge.com/iltis/magazine.htm http://servir-et-defendre.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1921 Donc pour moi, il s'agit d'un 1977+ Volkswagen Iltis [Typ 183]. -- Last edit: 2014-03-05 02:05:14
Exiv96 ◊ 2024-04-21 12:14	Production started in mid-1978, not 1977. And those early Iltises had an angular engine hood. Link to "commons.wikimedia.org").jpg This one has a later hood, with rounded edges.

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