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Hallford 3-Ton Subsidy

Hallford 3-Ton in Michael Collins, Movie, 1996 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: UK

Hallford 3-Ton Subsidy

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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G-MANN UK

2012-06-10 23:35

[Image: michaelcollinspx20312_1.jpg]

Same make/model vehicle appears here:

[Image: michaelcollinspx20313_1.jpg] [Image: michaelcollinspx20314_1.jpg]
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Jale PL

2012-06-11 00:01

Hallford: Link to "miliblog.co.uk"

The vehicle details for PX 2031 are:
Date of Liability 01 02 2013
Date of First Registration 23 05 1925
Year of Manufacture 1925
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 0cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREEN
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

Vehicle Details for registration number PX2031

Make HALLFORD
Model
Year of manufacture
Engine size (cc)

But acc to the picture from the link - this truck is from 1914

-- Last edit: 2012-06-11 00:05:53

dsl SX

2012-06-11 01:10

Treat the registration date with caution - early 1920s saw creation of first national register of UK plates; many earlier cars were re-registered from local files at this time - some got new numbers and/or incorrect dates of manufacture and first registration. We've had this problem before eg some older Rolls Royces have apparent 1920s plate dates but are up to 20 years older. More dating evidence needed to confirm a reliable date here - it may easily be 1914 if the links are solid.

Jale PL

2012-06-11 01:26

They called this Hallford GS: http://miliblog.co.uk/?cat=193

johnfromstaffs EN

2012-06-15 12:44

The PX 1 to 9999 registration series was issued by the County Council of West Sussex commencing in April 1923 and completing sometime in 1930. The first issued number in 1925 was PX 1200 (approx.) and the first issued number of 1926 was PX 3290 (again approx). J E Hall of Dartford Kent sold the last Hallford lorries in 1926 according to: - http://www.dartfordarchive.org.uk/20th_century/industry_halls.shtml and http://www.dartfordarchive.org.uk/technology/engin_hall_vehicles.shtml
so the vehicle dating could well be correct, although the vehicle's bodywork resembles earlier designs, and the radiator is similar to that used in 1912.

Various models of Hallford lorries were eligible for the War Office subsidy in which owners were paid towards keeping their vehicles in good condition provided that the vehicles could be commandeered by the War Office and used for government purposes.

The cases of Rolls-Royces carrying untruthful number plates are most likely due to plates being moved from vehicle to vehicle, or in the case of plates which make the vehicle look newer, cars being re-registered upon being given new coachwork.

-- Last edit: 2012-06-15 13:51:34

Sunbar UK

2012-08-06 12:12

Jale wrote They called this Hallford GS: http://miliblog.co.uk/?cat=193


GS indicated 'General Service' and the term was applied to many British WWI military trucks at the time.

The Hallford 3-Ton was approved in the WWI Subsidy scheme. Hallford produced trucks with the oval nameplate on the radiator in 1910, so its possible that it dates to about 1914-8 as the miliblog link suggests but it could equally be a later 'restoration' of a civilian truck.

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