Advertising Last completed movie pages 2002 Volvo B7 LA Berkhof Jonckheer Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2012-07-31 16:27 |
In fact it was Berkhof "Jonckheer" without "e" at the end. This indeed can be a bit confusing, as name is nearly identical with the Belgian "Jonckheere", which together with the Berkhof Heerenveen was part of the Berkhof Jonckheere Group. -- Last edit: 2012-07-31 16:29:02 |
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◊ 2012-08-01 00:54 |
Trivia I found on Dutch wikipedia (translated by google, edited by me): 'The name Jonckheer is often confused with the Belgian manufacturer's name Jonckheere. As a result it's often speculated that this type of model is co-produced by Belgian manufacturer. This is not the case, since the manufacturer name Jonckheere has an extra 'e' in spelling. It is simply a naming relating to the then Director CFP Jonckheer Testa.' My adding: brand name Jonckheere (with an extra 'e') relate to Henri Jonckheere, XIX-century Belgian horse drawn carriages builder. |
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◊ 2012-08-01 20:46 |
Interesting "supplement"! |
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◊ 2012-08-02 17:36 |
Indeed, nice info .gif ":)") |
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◊ 2012-08-02 18:31 |
Antp, I'm not sure if you're Dutch native speaker (I know most people in Brussels are French speakers), but im interested in linguistic aspects and I got a question. I wonder if similarity of these two names (Jonckheer and Jonckheere) is a matter of the same process of dropping 'e' throughtout time as in English? You know, all this old-English 'wilde' and 'shoppe':) |
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◊ 2012-08-02 20:05 |
I've yet to see him write a word of Dutch.  It's a difference between old Flemish and the Dutch in Holland. West-Flemish adds the -e for feminine words. (that may have been the case in old English too??) It was spoken in the northeastern United States but now extinct, and nearly gone in Flanders too since only modern Dutch is taught. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 21:06 |
No, he's Wallonian. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:31 |
Way off. Brussels-Capital is a region independent from Wallonia with its own government. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:34 |
So would that make him a Sprout? ![[Image: 1841212407.gif]](http://r22.imgfast.net/users/2213/12/02/90/smiles/1841212407.gif "http://r22.imgfast.net/users/2213/12/02/90/smiles/1841212407.gif") I understand that speaking French in the wrong part of Belgium gets you a punched face. When I went I limited my incitement of the locals to wearing an Anderlecht scarf in Bruges. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:34 |
Thank you for comprehensive answer, chicomarx!:) |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:45 |
@Sandie That's not very limited, that was more provocative than speaking French.  I'm not a Flemish nationalist, I don't care if anyone speaks French here. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:54 |
Sandie's example with the football scarf doesn't really fit. It's not a matter of the language, the distinction is much narrower. It depends on towns, sometimes even boroughs. So as here in the Ruhr Area. Foreign football-fans have to be very careful, where they sing and show what. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 22:57 |
A Dutch friend told me, that when I try to use my (very poor) French in France, I always have to ask for "Kah soixante-dix" spare parts or literature. When you say "Kah septante", the prices will be higher or the stuff not available ay more. |
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◊ 2012-08-02 23:07 |
'septante/nonante' is used in Belgium. If you were to say that in Paris they'll pretend not to understand at all. |
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◊ 2012-08-03 22:04 |
In Switzerland they use it too .gif ";)") Yes, thanks I'm from Brussels, not from Wallonia  I speak a little Dutch, but badly (I probably posted once or two in Dutch on the site, though) Here is a very good explanation of all that complicated stuff in Belgian regions/communities https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ceg6NQKHd70 There is just one (big) mistake: when they mention the three regions they used the flags of the three linguistic communities i.e. they used Link to "upload.wikimedia.org" (German-speaking community) instead of Link to "upload.wikimedia.org" (Brussels region) -- Last edit: 2012-08-03 22:08:31 |
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