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1938 Standard Flying Twenty Touring Saloon [20BA]

1938 Standard Flying Twenty [20BA] in Father Brown, TV Series, 2013-2025 Ep. 8.05

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin:

1938 Standard Flying Twenty Touring Saloon [20BA]

00:32:28 Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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Sunbar ◊ 2015-01-10 15:50	Ep. 3.05 1938 Standard BMR 520 Date of first registration 02 July 1938 Year of manufacture 1938 Cylinder capacity (cc) 2638cc Vehicle colour BLACK -- Last edit: 2022-01-01 18:53:21
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2015-01-10 17:18	Flying Twenty 2663cc Flying V-VIII 2868cc Wider grille and design of bonnet louvres suggest V-VIII engine but not certain.
Sunbar ◊ 2015-01-10 19:34	Watched the episode again and the grilles in the side of the bonnet are as the "V-Eight" and definitely not the tapered style used on the "Twenty". http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/page534.html http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im19361016A-Stand.jpg http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/page557.html -- Last edit: 2015-01-10 19:49:04
tore-40 ◊ 2015-01-10 21:51	I would think this has been asked before, but weren't these called 'Flying Standard', not 'Standard Flying'?
dsl ◊ 2015-01-10 23:27	The Flying bit is a sub-designation to make it 'Flying 20hp' and other 'Flying (numbers)'
tore-40 ◊ 2015-01-11 09:31	dsl wrote The Flying bit is a sub-designation to make it 'Flying 20hp' and other 'Flying (numbers)' The were made by Standard Motor Company, so a sub-designation would be logical, but still in the brochures these pre-war Standards are referred to as Flying Standard with 'Flying' in front We list them as Standard Flying
Sunbar ◊ 2015-01-11 12:55	dsl wrote The Flying bit is a sub-designation to make it 'Flying 20hp' and other 'Flying (numbers)' I agree completely, and would only say the "Flying" Standards at the time was a way of promoting the new streamlined models in adverts and brochures. Common usage today is to call them the Standard Flying Nine, Flying Twelve, Flying Fourteen etc. and its equally correct as 'Flying Standard'. I can see no reason to change the way they are currently listed on IMCDb. -- Last edit: 2015-01-11 12:55:43
Sunbar ◊ 2015-02-17 13:00	Also seen in episode 1.06 00:44:25
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2015-02-21 19:05	While the discussion rages about where the Flying fits, it should be V-VIII, for reason see- https://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/profile/standard-flying-v8/
dsl ◊ 2015-02-21 20:03	Glass's says Flying V-Eight Twenty, Robson's "The Book of the Standard Motor Company" (local Oxfam bargain a couple of weeks back!) says Flying V-Eight, with internal code [20AV].
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2015-02-21 22:14	But the motif on the cars says V-VIII.
Sunbar ◊ 2015-02-22 13:15	I'm with dsl I think on this one, even the motorbase link describes it as the "Standard Flying V8" Despite the comment, "Because V8 was a Ford trade mark this new big Standard 4 door saloon was known as the V-VII" it appears common usage to call it the Flying V8, even carrying over to Standard's advert. (I do like term V-VII as a quirky piece of history however.)
Sunbar ◊ 2016-01-14 13:20	Seen again in episode 4.08 0:08:10
sps1955 ◊ 2016-07-18 22:45	The rear views of this car made me a bit suspicious of the identification of it as a V8, since I did not think that the V8 survived long enough to get the rear styling shown, as opposed to the beetle back and split rear window of the first Flying Standards. A little searching on the web brought up this page about BMR520: http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/page560.html . It appears to be a 6-cylinder 20 (albeit running with an MGB engine when that article was written!); it's an early example of the "booted" styling shown on the 1939 Standard page of the Classic Car Catalogue ( http://www.classiccarcatalogue.com/STANDARD%201939.html ) and continued in the post-war 12 and 14. -- Last edit: 2016-07-18 22:46:03
Sunbar ◊ 2017-01-03 22:56	Also seen in episode 5.02 00:37:47 however it replaces this vehicle halfway through the scene in a car chase /vehicle.php?id=991417
Sunbar ◊ 2019-11-04 15:39	There is nothing to suggest the V-Eight was built other than as a fastback/beetle-back saloon (or a drop-head coupe version subcontracted to a separate body builder). "The other two newcomers for 1938 were so-called ‘Touring’ versions of the Flying Fourteen and Twenty saloons. These ... were identifiable by their distinctive ‘notch back’ styling, incorporating a larger luggage boot than the previous ‘beetle back’ style Fourteen and Twenty models. http://www.wheels-alive.co.uk/flying-standards-a-transformative-range/
Sunbar ◊ 2022-01-04 12:32	Seen again in episode 9.01 00:31:54

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